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Sedans Toyota Camry Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord
654 messages, Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 3:25 PM
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 19, 2009 3:52 pm) If they were closer in age, well it would be a toss up. |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 11, 2009 8:09 am) Most people I know with Camry and Honda don't have problems until after 100k miles. have never purchased Japneese since I want to support America. After owning my 2001 Malibu I can no longer afford to buy GM. List of problems as follows(have prof from dealer) Intake Manifold leaked and replaced 34k Transmision Rebuilt at 38K BCM body control module failed 3 times in 2 years(left me stranded each time) Ignition cylinder replaced 3 times( anti theft system failure) AC pully failure( GM makes a modular AC unit ,can't replace pully must replace whole compressor 46K I purchased and extra warranty which expired one month after the ac was replaced. Now I have problems with lights cutting off and on, my be BCM again. If I do buy American it will be Ford not GM.
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Replying to: blackbeard1 (Nov 24, 2009 3:49 pm) There are a lot of good cars out there, both domestic and imports. But, if you do choose an "American" brand, make sure it really is "American" - make sure it was built in the USA with mostly North American parts. I know that rules out many so-called "American" cars.
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Replying to: blackbeard1 (Nov 24, 2009 3:49 pm) Lehrer
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Nov 24, 2009 5:26 pm)
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Replying to: hackattack5 (Nov 25, 2009 5:32 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Nov 25, 2009 8:46 am) Now, lets say they make a very good product, holds up well, but for me, will its value be worth anything in a year? That alone is reason enough not to get the car. A car is the second largest investment, other than a house. So why would I put that much into a car that is worth so much less in a year. Why should I eat their negative value? At this time, GM's car are not priced according to their true value. But, I will say my 08 Pontiac G6, with 25,000 miles has been a quiet, 95% rattle free ride. My 06 Accord, had plenty of rattles, and was more noisy than the G6. However, I hate the engine in the G6, miss the Accord engine! Swap them out, and I would be okay. The G6 is pretty solid, and actually impressed.
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 12, 2009 10:20 am) I had a USED Chevy HHR...within 14k I had the steering column replaced, the headliner taken out for a leak, the shifter replaced, rotors, ALL TSBs!! Pulled doen the hatch and the plastic cup came off in my hand. Pulled up a door lock and it came off..(apparently they are pressed on and not threaded anymore) Paid $12.5 for an 11 month old car with a sticker of $24K at a new car lot. (The original owner took a royal beating) I was getting $7500 trade offers LOL... Now those who say GM is suddenly great and reliable I say it takes years to design a car. Anything sold today was designed before the Fall when cutting corners was routine. I would look at GM again 4 years from now when TODAY'S NEW GM is designing cars being built tomorrow... I drove the Chevy Malibu,,,yeah it had more toys but I had no confidence in the car at all. I know this. My Honda will have issues..Hell the new BMW 335 has fuel pump issues that cannot be resolved. But I am confident after researching both cars the Honda will have less of those pesky fit and finish issues. The Accord is worth $3000 more then a Malibu all day long,,,and in 6 years that money will be returned. I bought a Honda Care Wrap 84/80K EW for $655...The price of EWS are lower for a reason... $650 0 deductible for 84 months? HONDA BACKEDWARRANTY? All day long...Yeah I bought it online but the Honda Dealer I bought it from (Saccucci Honda) could actually sell it for that price!! 100K Drive train warranties are a joke. Thats not what goes wrong in cars. Most of the time it's $300 crap over and over again. Hyundai used the long warranty to sell cars so Chevy is trying it. But like Hyundai Chevy will need years to overcome their perception and what they are doing NOW to design, choose vendors, to build cars 3 years from now will make all the difference. Its not all about the assembly line getting better. Its about designing a reliable car made from reliable parts first...then assembled well. the NEW GM is only months old. We shall see what they put out in a few years,,, Tha will make all the difference. Honda and Toyota know this. They also know todays GM cares are made out the past's bad habits...
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http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f0a23d1/ Match that up with this forum and look at the number of problem threads and number of posts in those threads...... Not scientific but considering Honda customers have far higher expectations I would have expected more "problem threads" and a lot more posts....... I used the Coupe threads because that's the car I bought and far less clutter. The car is basically the same. |
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