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Re: bvdj84 [butch100]
by elroy5
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Jul 15, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: butch100 (Jul 15, 2009 4:27 pm)
Hondas were a very popular choice of thieves years ago, because many Honda models had interchangeable parts, including engines and transmissions. The Integra was the big target, because it had a higher performance engine, that could easily be swapped into an Accord or Prelude. The cars were also very easy to steal back then. I doubt Accords are stolen much anymore, mainly because of the Immobilizer system, and you can just buy a V6 engine in an Accord now, instead of putting the higher performance 4 cylinder engine from an Acura TSX in it. In the early 90's you could not get a V6 in an Accord, so the only way to get a power boost, besides home-made turbo, was the Acura 4 cylinder engine.
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1991 Honda Civic or 1987 Chevy Beretta
by riverwlkr02
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Jul 19, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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Was wondering what your choice would be. I have to decide between a 1991 Honda Civic or 1987 Chevy Beretta. The Civic has 168,000 miles on it. Engine/trans good. Needs front ball joints. Test drived - not bad! Little rust and no dents. Asking $775.
1987 Chevy Beretta has 136,000 miles and some rust. The brakes felt damp (small line where it seeps out a connector) - flange ends of brake lines. Asking $750. New battery, air filter, manifold.
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Re: 1991 Honda Civic or 1987 Chevy Beretta [riverwlkr02]
by dmathews3
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Jul 19, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: riverwlkr02 (Jul 19, 2009 2:36 pm)
I would say there are going to be continuing problems with either car. The Chevy will be a whole lot cheaper for parts than the Honda will be. Most likely 1/2 the price as the same parts are in use in a whole bunch of smaller GM cars. Check out a couple of parts stores for some common parts like starter, altanator, brake parts etc.
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Re: 1991 Honda Civic or 1987 Chevy Beretta [riverwlkr02]
by elroy5
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Jul 19, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: riverwlkr02 (Jul 19, 2009 2:36 pm)
Chances are, the Civic will be easier to keep rolling than the Beretta. There are a lot of 91 Civics left on the road, whereas the Beretta is on the verge of extinction. GM stopped making the Beretta and Corsica for good reason. Brakes, intake manifolds, and alternators are just a few of the components that needed frequent attention. Check the reliability ratings.
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Re: 1991 Honda Civic or 1987 Chevy Beretta [elroy5]
by bvdj84
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Jul 19, 2009 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 19, 2009 3:52 pm)
Either way, have the car you seem to like inspected. It is cheaper to get parts for a GM car. But, how many parts would need attention? I would probably go with the Civic, only because its fairly newer than the beretta. Otherwise pick the one you like.
If they were closer in age, well it would be a toss up.
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Re: bvdj84 [elroy5]
by blackbeard1
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Nov 24, 2009 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 11, 2009 8:09 am)
I have to agree.
Most people I know with Camry and Honda don't have problems until after 100k miles. have never purchased Japneese since I want to support America.
After owning my 2001 Malibu I can no longer afford to buy GM.
List of problems as follows(have prof from dealer)
Intake Manifold leaked and replaced 34k
Transmision Rebuilt at 38K
BCM body control module failed 3 times in 2 years(left me stranded each time)
Ignition cylinder replaced 3 times( anti theft system failure)
AC pully failure( GM makes a modular AC unit ,can't replace pully must replace whole compressor 46K
I purchased and extra warranty which expired one month after the ac was replaced.
Now I have problems with lights cutting off and on, my be BCM again.
If I do buy American it will be Ford not GM.
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Re: bvdj84 [blackbeard1]
by mcdawgg
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Nov 24, 2009 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: blackbeard1 (Nov 24, 2009 3:49 pm)
"If I do buy American it will be Ford not GM."
There are a lot of good cars out there, both domestic and imports. But, if you do choose an "American" brand, make sure it really is "American" - make sure it was built in the USA with mostly North American parts. I know that rules out many so-called "American" cars.
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Re: bvdj84 [blackbeard1]
by lehrer1
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Nov 24, 2009 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: blackbeard1 (Nov 24, 2009 3:49 pm)
I drove a brand new Malibu, 4L, A two years ago in Montana. Was impressed by the engine and transmission. But the new car had a rattling noise in dashboard and annoying reflection in the wind shield from the top of dashboard. GM has a way to go to be on par with Honda.
Lehrer
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Re: bvdj84 [lehrer1]
by mcdawgg
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Nov 24, 2009 (10:33 pm)
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Replying to: lehrer1 (Nov 24, 2009 8:05 pm)
Honda and Toyota have rattles too.
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Re: bvdj84 [mcdawgg]
by hackattack5
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Nov 25, 2009 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Nov 24, 2009 5:26 pm)
Mcdawgg: I found that out when I decided on the Ford Fusion. I was unhappy with my 08 Accord because Honda would not back their product. I started to look at ratings and for any kind of dirt I could find on a short list of cars that would work for my family. I included ford on the list because the Fusion has great reviews and I had luck with Fords years ago. I did not include GM because of a brand new Firebird that I bought in 1984 and I told them just what I told Honda, I will never buy from them again. I felt that buying a Fusion was good because its a great car and my tax money did not bail Ford out so I went to the dealership and found out that the Fusion is made in Mexico. I bought it anyway because it has high ratings and the profit does comes back to the USA. The funny thing is Honda and Toyota were imported for years and they were cheap and reliable now they are made here and they are expensive and not so reliable??? Go figure
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