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Re: PRIUS FULLFILLS 2% OF USUAL NEEDS [gagrice]
by stevedebi
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Oct 05, 2007 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 04, 2007 7:18 pm)
"We have just about settled on the Sequoia that seems to have enough room for people to drive and ride in it. It has much more headroom than the specs show."
You might want to glance at the Taurus X. It has a lot of usable headroom, even in the 3rd row. It also has command seating like an SUV, but with normal entry - you don't climb up into it. And it will beat the heck out of a Sequioa for MPG.
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Re: PRIUS FULLFILLS 2% OF USUAL NEEDS [stevedebi]
by gagrice
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Oct 05, 2007 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Oct 05, 2007 3:06 pm)
I think I saw one. I will check it out. I like the looks. I don't think I will care for an SUV that is not BOF. I want to get a good one before the automakers buckle under to the government. So far the Sequoia 4X4 has what I want in a mature model. I would buy a 2006 Denali if I could find a super clean low mileage certified unit. I do not like what GM has done to the new SUVs. I am surprised the Taurus X gets only 15 MPG in town. That is the same as the much heavier Sequoia.
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Re: PRIUS FULLFILLS 2% OF USUAL NEEDS [gagrice]
by stevegold
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Oct 05, 2007 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 04, 2007 7:18 pm)
I'm 6'2" and have driven my 2004 Prius without ever hitting the roof. The legroom on the passenger side is sometimes tight but my wife drove us 1,500 miles from Aspen to Custer, SD and I was fine space wise. Got a flat for the first time in any car I've owned. I just replaced all four tires after about 25,000 miles. That was my mistake in waiting. My only real complaint is driving up a long, steep, straight mountain pass. The battery poops out after five minutes and you can't go faster than 65mph (60 if there's deep snow on the road. My Highlander Hybrid does not have that problem. A turbo on the Prius would be the perfect solution.
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PRIUS: TOMARROW'S CAR TODAY
by railroadjames
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Oct 06, 2007 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: stevegold (Oct 05, 2007 8:53 pm)
I'm somewhat stymied by the usual naysayers that insist room is lacking in the 2nd Gen. Prius. Pointing out all the pluses I'm surprized that people simply don't go out and take one for a test drive and see why it's such a great car. There's a good deal of room compared to so many other cars. Of course I understand there are many who are over 6'2" tall and some need a vehicle that can tow boats, etc and carry more than 5 people. All I'm saying is that for a large portion of one's daily driving needs the Prius delivers. What's not to like when you fillup less often and go 2-3 times as far on a tank? What's smarter than that? 
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Re: PRIUS FULLFILLS 2% OF USUAL NEEDS [stevegold]
by gagrice
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Oct 06, 2007 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: stevegold (Oct 05, 2007 8:53 pm)
I'm 6'2" and have driven my 2004 Prius without ever hitting the roof.
I sat in a new Prius while they were waxing our new Sequoia. The Prius does have better headroom than the Camry XLE that I also sat in. They both seem very small when compared to the Sequoia. I will take the latter and spend a few bucks more for gas. I got a wonderful discount because of all you folks worried about the price of gas. They are having a hard time selling the big ones and you can get ONE great deal. How about $10k off MSRP on a maxed out limited 4X4 Sequoia. I have not gotten to drive it. The wife put the first 26 miles home. I think she likes the NAV.
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Hybrid For Most
by railroadjames
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Oct 06, 2007 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2007 3:23 pm)
Seriously..Sounds like a 4X4 I'd buy if I was looking for MORE room & MORE comfort. After 4 plus yrs with the Prius and 66 K miles I feel I've sacrificed little if anything with the Prius My son I just bought a Chrysler Pacifico and I must admit its darn nice. I hope it is reliable unlike some of Chrysler products. Again I'll say ..enjoy your Sequoia if that's your choice. It is a great car!
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Re: Hybrid For Most [railroadjames]
by gagrice
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Oct 06, 2007 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: railroadjames (Oct 06, 2007 4:22 pm)
The difference between you an me is about 12k miles per year. So I imagine my gas bill will be about the same as yours. My gas last year did not match my water bill here in So. California. My GMC hybrid got about 16 MPG over the 25 months and 12k miles I owned it. If the Sequoia does that well we will be happy as it is much better suited to traveling with another couple. We got the 2nd row captain seats with DVD NAV and rear entertainment. It is pretty nice for a Toyota
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Re: PRIUS FULLFILLS 2% OF USUAL NEEDS [gagrice]
by stevedebi
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Oct 07, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 05, 2007 7:14 pm)
"I am surprised the Taurus X gets only 15 MPG in town. That is the same as the much heavier Sequoia."
I don't know about the Sequoia, but the MPG forum for the Taurus is reporting about 18 city / 27 Highway, though that may have been for a FWD. A lot depends on the heaviness of foot.
But I didn't realize that you wanted body on frame - the T-Rex doesn't meet that criteria. However I don't think the Government will outlaw BOF - It will be economics that does the job (if it happens).
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Hey!! Its About Hybrids Don't Cha Know!!
by railroadjames
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Oct 07, 2007 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Oct 07, 2007 1:41 pm)
Getting back to the topic of hybrids with serious miles, I thought it might be nice to include a story about a self employed taxi driver with an '05 Prius that has over 235K miles and how it managed 45.5 mpg's. He claimed that passengers often were surprized at the roominess of the car and how smooth the transmission seemed. His one gripe was the interior that showed significant dirt but was easy to wash off for the most part.
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Re: Hybrid For Most [gagrice]
by railroadjames
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Mar 22, 2008 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2007 6:00 pm)
I'm always surprised that hybrid SUV's fail to get a significant improved milage over conventional SUV's per the additional cost factor of Hybrids. My '04 Prius is closing in on 80K and I'm still amazed that it has been literally a problem free car. Several friends have joined the "bandwagon" and I'm pleased to say, they too are happy buyers also. I've owned over 50 automobiles thru the yrs and the Prius is, without a doubt, the most impressive vehical I've ever come across. I look forward to the 3rd Generation Prius and hope that it will achieve the same quality standards that I've come to expect from Toyota.
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