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#41 of 198 Re: Anyone heard about this? [pf_flyer] by railroadjames Sep 27, 2007 (12:50 pm)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Sep 27, 2007 7:52 am) I have 66K on my '04 Prius and a neighbor,who drives some serious long hauls, has 87K and neither of us has had any of the above mentioned problems. By the way, while we're here...Isn't it nice to see that the '08 Prius looks just like my '04 Prius!! Makes me feel good to know that mine looks as good as a brand new '08.
#42 of 198 Re: Not so much concerned about that site [larsb] by gagrice Sep 27, 2007 (7:16 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Sep 27, 2007 12:01 pm) Oh ye of short memory. The Prius had a VERY serious problem with stalling at very inopportune times. Toyota ignored the problem until the NHTSA (ODI) Office of Defects Investigation jumped on them. People posting here were called everything including liars. UNTIL, it was determined that yes there were some serious software issues with the Prius II.   Why would you say that Consumer Affairs is any more biased than Consumer Reports? Is Consumer Affairs owned by the Big 3 like CR is owned by Toyota? Any entity that says anything negative about hybrids is a hack operation in your opinion. Now that mainstream media and car buyers in general are questioning the need for or the savings owning a hybrid you attack them also.   I think people are just now seeing the light of day on this whole hybrid charade.   By the way. Anyone looking for a hybrid in San Diego. Mossy Toyota has the largest inventory of Prius, I saw 13 on the lot. Plus they have a half dozen Camry Hybrids to chose from. Replies to this message: railroadjames (Sep 27, 2007 7:49 pm) larsb (Sep 28, 2007 5:19 am) larsb (Sep 28, 2007 5:28 am) railroadjames (Sep 28, 2007 6:17 am) akoller (Sep 28, 2007 6:30 am) kdhspyder (Oct 01, 2007 1:27 pm)
#43 of 198 Re: Not so much concerned about that site [gagrice] by railroadjames Sep 27, 2007 (7:49 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2007 7:16 pm) Whoa!! There Gary. Sounds like your spouting the same thing you so forth rightly detest. Inuendos seem to be thrown around from both sides on occasions. Like.."charades" & "light of day" etc. So...lets just be gracious and say "to each his own." By the way, I'm up to 67K and nary a problem with my Prius. I averaged 47 mpg and saved about $7,000.00 in les than 4 yrs. over a reg. car getting 14 mpg's. That, plus resale value seems to be running very high these days. Whats not to like?
#44 of 198 Re: Not so much concerned about that site [gagrice] by larsb Sep 28, 2007 (5:19 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2007 7:16 pm) Gary says, "I think people are just now seeing the light of day on this whole hybrid charade."   Thanks for the Friday morning laugh !!!! LOL !!! ROFLMTEO !!!
#45 of 198 Re: Not so much concerned about that site [gagrice] by larsb Sep 28, 2007 (5:28 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2007 7:16 pm) I'm not "short of memory" at all. I even mentioned the Prius software glitch in my post, in case you missed that. But that's not a "hybrid problem" that was a "programming problem" like I stated in the post.   Gary says, "Why would you say that Consumer Affairs is any more biased than Consumer Reports?"   Um, here are the reasons:   1. Consumeraffairs.com, whomever is the editorial staff there, had apparently been told to publish every single little "here's a hybrid owner who has a problem" story that they can find. If you search their site there are many many of those sort of articles. Any fair, balanced, pro-hybrid stories to balance out the issue? Very few. Consumeraffairs.com has an obvious and glaring anti-hybrid bias, and I know this for a fact because I have read almost all their hybrid articles and have sent them numerous "what's your problem?" e-mails and have NEVER ONCE gotten the respect of a response from them. I even filed a Consumer Complaint about THEM on their site !! 2. Consumer Reports is not biased in any way, and I'm sorry that you are too "set in your ways" to see that. They do testing by REAL SCIENTISTS and they report problems based on REAL OWNERS who report the problems, and they use "large enough groups" to make a statistical difference. What I mean by that is that consumeraffairs.com uses one owner here, one owner there, and then makes little snide comments in the stories which intimate that ALL hybrids must or so have these problems that this one owner in the story has.   Gary says, "Now that mainstream media and car buyers in general are questioning the need for or the savings owning a hybrid you attack them also." What do you mean "NOW THAT" this is happening? IT HAS HAPPENED FROM DAY ONE with the hybrids - are you kidding me !! I have been here for the last three years trying to refute all the anti-hybrid garbage that gets put out. "Just now" is not an applicable term for people attacking hybrids and YOU KNOW THAT GARY. Replies to this message: railroadjames (Sep 28, 2007 6:17 am) akoller (Sep 28, 2007 6:30 am)
#46 of 198 Re: Not so much concerned about that site [larsb] by railroadjames Sep 28, 2007 (6:17 am)
Replying to: larsb (Sep 28, 2007 5:28 am) I couldn't agree with you more. While enjoying ownership of this amazing car I wanted to shout it to the masses because its just that dang good. While in Vancouver Canada I was surprised to see countless "Yellow Prius's (taxi's). I asked the obvious question.."So what do you think of this Toyota Hybrid?" Every time the answer was unnanimous..."FANTASTIC" "IT SAVED MY JOB." Many of them had 200K plus miles on thir cars and were exstatic about the "no problem" car. Talk to anyone who owns one and you'll be hard pressed to find a complaint out there. As to the consumer watchguards..I seldom see negitive comments and yet I see "top ten" ratings from most. Look in the want-ads and see how many folks are parting with their hybrid Prius cars...not very many and when they do show up they're snapped up fast at very premium prices. Replies to this message: akoller (Sep 28, 2007 6:30 am)
#47 of 198 Re: Not so much concerned about that site [railroadjames] by akoller Sep 28, 2007 (6:30 am)
Replying to: railroadjames (Sep 28, 2007 6:17 am) Me too. There are a couple of areas where very small changes would make big improvements (seating, sun visor -- the Vibe made by Toyota for GM has a sliding visor that worked GREAT!), but given the option, I'd buy mine again. Mileage is great, ride is smooth and quiet, and the quality is better than comparable cars in the same price range. I love my Prius and look forward to several more years of great service and huge savings over my friends driving standard vehicles.   Besides, all that technology is just plain fun to drive!
#48 of 198 Consumeraffarirs.com by pathstar1 Sep 28, 2007 (7:54 am)
I have heard from reputable sources the site is run by lawyers looking for consumer cases to exploit. They have appearantly been warned several times by your government to cease and desist, but so far they are still chasing lawsuits.   Perhaps someone should look a little closer. Replies to this message: gagrice (Sep 28, 2007 8:20 am) larsb (Sep 28, 2007 9:14 am)
#49 of 198 Re: Consumeraffarirs.com [pathstar1] by gagrice Sep 28, 2007 (8:20 am)
Replying to: pathstar1 (Sep 28, 2007 7:54 am) A link would be helpful with these reputable sources. I hear from reputable sources that CR is totally financed by Toyota. It would be hard to prove either allegation.   Just to be fair and balanced. When I test drove a Sequoia yesterday. The salesman told me that the Prius is their best selling car. That was Mossy Toyota San Diego. They had at least 13 on the lot and offering good prices through the end of the month. Oh, I liked the Sequoia a LOT.... Replies to this message: larsb (Sep 28, 2007 9:14 am)
#50 of 198 Re: Consumeraffarirs.com [gagrice] by larsb Sep 28, 2007 (9:14 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 28, 2007 8:20 am) Gary says, "I hear from reputable sources that CR is totally financed by Toyota."   Oh really? Got any weblinks to that effect? Hard to hide something like that.

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