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#138 of 261 Re: PRIUS OWNERS W/ 50K : WHAT WE THINK NOW [dstarinieri]
Jun 28, 2008 (8:19 pm)
I've been waiting 3 years for the next version. Good thing I have a 2004 so I can wait.
Toyota is struggling with the Li-ion batteries. Since I live in the mountains, my wish list also includes and electric turbo and 4WD like the Highlander. The plug in feature only helps if most of your driving is real short trips. I can't see how they can get the electric range beyond 5 miles. Right now in EV mode I can go 1/4-1/2 mile max before the ICE comes on. Battery improvements would have to be 10 fold, with some programming changes to make it practical for around town use battery only use. Not likely soon. Maybe 3 years. Don't believe McCain, Clinton, Greenspan, Gore. They don't have a clue. Read Amory Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute. He knows what's possible and when.
#139 of 261 Re: PRIUS OWNERS W/ 50K : WHAT WE THINK NOW [stevegold]
Jun 29, 2008 (7:36 am)
What mountains do you live in?
#140 of 261 New Owner Update and Findings
Jul 09, 2008 (8:49 pm)
Purchased a Touring Prius in April ("Preferenced/Ordered it just before things got crazy with the 2-3 month waiting lists) Took a month but got the color and style we wanted. The dealer has some visibility as to whats coming off the production line in JPN.
Findings: Live in Denver area and are in the Mtns every weekend. 2 adults in front, 2-70lb dogs and a beagle in the back seat. Built a carpeted/wooden platform for dogs in back seat & works great. Story tons of "stuff" in the hatch area & feet area of back seat.
This car is replacing a Ford Explorer. while it obviously doesn't do all the Explorer does, with a few mods and a bit of packing planning it is exceeding our expectations and costing 75% less in gas.
It doesn't set any speed records climbing the mtns but it actually does quite well. Engine & CVT transmission revs pretty high sometimes but other than that its just fine climbing.
Weekend Mtn trips - 200 -miles RT - Car averages 39MPG up and 55MPG down.
Sometimes at Hwy Speeds on slight downhill grade, a soft foot will find the engine running on Battery only & keeping speeds up. (round trip avg btwn 44 - 47 mpg car fully loaded sometimes AC running)
Driving style makes a HUGE difference in MPG. Heavy foot = 35 - 39 MPG around town. Lite foot = 44-50 Mpg.
Options & suggestions:
Got option #2, added after market (front)HEATED, leather(front & back) seats thru dealer for $1500. More colors to choose from vs Toyota and didn't have to take Opt 6 to get leather. (Toyota doesn't seem to offer heated seats in Prius) Thru dealer seats are covered under warranty.
Added Clear Bra thru dealer - $200. Strongly recommend it.
DIY Options - Mud Flaps & 2" receiver/trailer hitch for Bike rack. (Both very easy to install & from Coastal Tech), clear Plastic headlight protectors. (prevents rock chips from pitting or cracking expensive headlight lenses), rubber honey comb cargo area mat. Keeps dirt & grime away. Costo Rubber Floor mats.
Tinted Windows - first time to have them and love them. With all that glass area the tint makes a huge difference in keeping the suns heat out. Cost - ~$200.
Tires- Spoke with local chain tire store have been using for years & trust them- they suggested when tires need replacing going with 205/55/16's. More choices than the stock 195/55/16's & lower cost too. the 205's are only about 1/3" wider & will fit and minimal/ possibly no hit on MPG.
We love the car, no complaints yet after 4000 miles....
#141 of 261 Similar Scenario But 80K Plus
Jul 10, 2008 (4:25 pm)
Our Prius has over 80K miles and we too have little to complain about and much to praise. Our '04 Prius has been exceedingly trouble free with only a slight problem with replacement (3 times) of Hd lt bulbs that are stinkers to get to let alone switch. We too have 2 large dogs (1-100lbs & 1-70lbs). We found useing a fitted twin size bed cover for the dogs to lay on w/ the Rr seats in down position works excellent because the fitted corners stay corners of seats & Rr corners of the Rr mat. As to care of the car and many of the things you felt to address I would only add that I highly recommend "Wheel Alignment" at 35K to 40K. It preserves the tread a great deal. I know this to be true since this was learned the hard way. It's $$$ well spent just like frequent oil changes.
#142 of 261 Re: Similar Scenario But 80K Plus [railroadjames]
Jul 11, 2008 (7:44 am)
Just read your posting, RR James. Thanks for the tip about wheel alignment 35-40k. I know fast tire wear can be an issue with these great cars. (Why is that, by the way?) The twin fitted sheet I will remember, but our dogs don't like riding in the car for some strange reason!?
#143 of 261 Re: Similar Scenario But 80K Plus [rick294]
Jul 14, 2008 (12:10 pm)
I am not entirely sure why the tires wear so quickly other than to point to the Tread Wear Rating number of only 260....
ie. not long lasting Tread wear.
#144 of 261 Re: Similar Scenario But 80K Plus [rick294]
Jul 14, 2008 (1:14 pm)
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner but....Grandpas gotta lot to do these days. About the tire wear: I'm not sure there's a complete answer to the issue. Not everybody got the same brand and then there's the issue 'bout tire air pressure...Recommended tire pressure is quite high and some owners fail to keep tires the right level. As I pointed out, the problem with Alignment can be a serious factor as to tire wear. I got 51K on my "OEM" tires and then only 22K when I came to realize I had an "alignment" problem that led to new tires again.
#145 of 261 Tires, again
Jul 15, 2008 (12:00 pm)
It could be that I have mistaken the tread wear number on the OEM Prius tires. The same Goodyear Integrity tires on the 05 Corolla we had were rated at 460. Bubkis says his are 260. I did see that low of a figure on some Scion Goodyear tires before we decided to go with Prius. I had never seen a treadwear figure that low before. Pays to take a closer look, apparently. I'm unhappy that Toyota would put that low quality of tire on their products. Disappointing.
#147 of 261 Re: Tires, again [bubkis]
Jul 15, 2008 (7:07 pm)
The tire size you reference is only applicable for the Touring model.