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#247 of 256 Re: 2002 Prius with 118K still going strong [bobw3]
by railroadjames
Sep 21, 2012 (8:13 pm)
Winters effect the mpg's because....the hybrid system demands that the gas engine run extended time from cold start due to cold temps of winter. This makes for available heat from the heater. When summer comes the mpg's then rise because the engine does not need extended running time thus more mpg's. I have 156K miles and have seen the fluxuation from summer to winter for 9 yrs due to seasonal changes. Gas blends are part of the reason too.
#248 of 256 Re: 2002 Prius with 118K still going strong [railroadjames]
by dym
Sep 27, 2012 (11:02 am)
I had been getting 51.3 mpg winter 2011 and summer 2011 and for some reason it fell in that Fall to 48.5 and Summer 2012 it rose to 49.3. Mine is a 2009 bought in 2008 and at one point early on it got 54.5 mpg average over my to work and long distance travel. When it dropped I asked the dealer rep and he said my new milage was more typical of what they see in cars in for regular service. I confess to willingness to get off the gas as soon as I see a red or yellow light unlike the other Charlotte NC drivers who shoot yellows and reds in acceleration. Had my share of "cut-offs" as a result but then they are not getting 40 mpg much less 49. Love my Prius and expressed it so much that my son in law who is a GM discount eligible buyer just bought a Prius V.
His heavy foot may cost more MPG than my light one.
#249 of 256 Re: 2002 Prius with 118K still going strong [dym]
by railroadjames
Sep 27, 2012 (11:38 am)
I started this site over 8 yrs ago and have had many surprises as the info of good news (mostly) came rolling in. I'm at 155 K miles and the thing that has amazed me the most is the durability of the Prius. This also means reliability. Both batteries (Hybrid & Utility) are going strong at 9 yrs. The other amazing item...the brakes seem to last forever. Other than oil changes, wiper blades, filters, head lt bulbs and tires I have found the car exceeds all my expectations. I simply believe and trust this hybrid car.
#250 of 256 One Major Failure in 63000 Miles
by skycaptain
Oct 14, 2012 (8:23 am)
I bought a 2010 Prius 3 in 2010 and now have abut 63000 miles on it. I love this car. I have had no mechanical problems except one that made itself known just past the 36 month warranty period.
I noticed that my solar driven cooling fan wasn't working this summer. I thought the fan had maybe died but then I looked at the solar panel and saw that green copper corrosion caused by long term moisture infiltration had shorted out the solar panel and it was unable to produce electricity anymore.
I had the Dealer look at the panel and by looking at the panel from a ladder he ascertained that the moisture infiltration had reached all the way across the panel to the rear as evidenced by the green corrosion of the wiring in the panel.
Now this just didn't happen overnight, but most likely, moisture had been infiltrating the panel for several years. There was no moisture visible in the pane, just the evidence of long term corrosion throughout the panel.
What I am saying is this. These panels were manufactured by an outside vendor for Toyota. If made properly, a solar panel should be hermetically sealed. Most solar panels normally have a useful life of 15 years. This panel was defective the day it was made and it just took 3 years for the corrosion to infiltrate deep enough to disable enough of the solar cells to render it inoperative.
The reason I tell you this is the solar option is an expensive option.($2000 replacement cost) If you are still in your warranty period I would suggest having the panel inspected for corrosion before you experience a failure. Once you know what to look for you can examine it yourself. Much like a hermetically sealed double pane house window there will be some clouding of the glass panel where the moisture has infiltrated.
In my case the infiltration appears to have been going on for years before total failure. Since it is tinted and part of the roof design you won't notice the subtle changes in the color unless you inspect the panel closely.
In conclusion, these panels should be waterproof and sealed during manufacture. If any moisture infiltrates by means other than from damage it is a design and/or manufacturing error.
#251 of 256 Re: Prius odor issues - responses appreciated [getitinwriting]
by pragmatist1
Jan 03, 2013 (7:41 pm)
I am now having this same problem with my 2010 Prius at 57000 miles. Did you ever find out what was the cause of the problem?
#252 of 256 Re: Prius odor issues - responses appreciated [pragmatist1]
by railroadjames
Jan 04, 2013 (7:38 pm)
A lot of possibles but I'd try replacing your onboard air filter. Mine was so bad that I've replaced mine 3 times (and should have more often). At least check out that filter for crap and junk in it.
#253 of 256 Re: One Major Failure in 63000 Miles [skycaptain]
by gimmestdtranny
Feb 23, 2013 (11:02 am)
This was a helpful post to read..surprised no has thanked you for the head's up yet..
I am interested in getting a used one, so will definitely keep this in mind.
#254 of 256 does anyone tow with their Prius?
by gimmestdtranny
Feb 23, 2013 (11:05 am)
I know that if you ask at a Toyota dealer, they will say towing is not recommended. I suspect that they don't want anything interfering with the fuel economy reputation.
So has anyone found a hitch or had one installed? Usually the 1.25" receiver hitch which many bicycle racks fit into would work fine for towing a small low profile utility trailer with total gross weight of under 700 lb or so (basically less weight that a car full of people).
#255 of 256 what is the best generation Prius
by gimmestdtranny
Feb 23, 2013 (11:07 am)
Just a random poll of owners..what is the best generation Prius you think, for someone wanting to buy a used one and of course with $ cost issues in mind for cars that are probably out of warranty? have the generations gotten better...or maybe worse?
#256 of 256 Re: what is the best generation Prius [gimmestdtranny]
by gimmestdtranny
Mar 02, 2013 (8:01 am)
Real active thread here I see.
So far, on my own, I have learned that the Generation 2 is probably the best minimum consideration.