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#963 of 1369 Re: 1995-2000 Toyota Frame Rust Buy-Back Program [bruce41]
Mar 25, 2010 (8:44 am)
bruce41 - How bad was your frame? I just discovered my 2001 Tacoma frame has 2 fist size holes in it. I took it straight to the dealer and they took pictures and went through all the paperwork and sent it on up to Toyota to make a decision. They put me back in the truck until they heard something from Toyota. Did they offer you both a frame replacement or a buy back? I really hope they offer a buyback.
#964 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [kcram]
Mar 26, 2010 (7:59 am)
Very informative site, thank you in advance to anyone with info. I bought a 2000 Tacoma Xcab in Jan of 2009 from a KIA dealership which was sold as a certified used vehicle so I was clearly not buying to take advantage of the buyback. In fact I was not aware of any such problems. The truck had 36,000 miles on it and was in excellent condition. Fast forward a year and 2 months and the crossmembers are almost completely rotted off and there are quite a large number of rot spots on the frame. This frame appeared in excellent condition when I purchased it. It's going in on Mon for an inspection but I gather the best I can hope for is a purchase price buyout? Which KBB price is used if it's used? Retail, Private Sale or Trade in? The one good thing is I think I overpayed for the truck. I really thought it would last me 200,000 miles.
Mar 26, 2010 (8:11 am)
After owning 3 Tacomas in a row, I just sold my 09 TRD DCab.
1998 4x4 V6 SR5 XCab = Blew both rear axle seals twice.
2002 4x4 V6 SR5 DCab = Axle seals, timing belt went early, frame replacement.
2009 4x4 V6 TRD DCab = Build quality not what it use to be, tranny issue, rear leafs, and now Toyota's many recalls.
In the end I think I gave it the 'old college try' but Toyota's quality is not what it use to be. In the old days the bed would rot out, but everything else was bulletproof. The $$ for these is no longer justified given the ever slipping quality, thus so many other vehicles are to know be considered.
Toyota got too big too fast and quality and value slipped terribly.
#966 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [guzziv8]
by KCRam@Edmunds HOST
Mar 26, 2010 (5:02 pm)
As an owner after the program was announced (March 2008), all you will get is what you paid for it... make sure you have the original purchase receipt. The 1.5x KBB-Excellent offer is only for those who owned the truck when the program was announced.
kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
#967 of 1369 Got new frame - sold Tacoma
Apr 02, 2010 (4:42 pm)
Well I got my rusted frame replacement operation
done the Toyota dealership. Just as I thought,
there are plenty of things they didn't get right or
do very well. You just can't tear apart a truck like
that & have it as good factory built.
So the week I got mine back, I sold it. I understand
some folks think owning a rebuilt is a great thing -
and others like me want nothing to do with it.
I wish everyone the best with this issue.
#968 of 1369 Re: 99 Taco questionable frame rust
Apr 10, 2010 (7:55 pm)
Anyone contacted TOYOTA with a 99 that passed test and still got Toyota to buy back. My frame rot is significant compared to other 99's but no holes. Utah-CO truck. I'm going to take it into other dealers for second and 3rd opinions and find out what they know.
My angle is why should I risk my family in a truck with an issue that may come up down the road and what if I'm too late in inspecting it.
#969 of 1369 Re: 99 Taco questionable frame rust [pbfj2010]
Apr 11, 2010 (8:28 am)
I HAVE A 98 TACO WITH 80 K MILES MINE PASSED RUST INSPECTION ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO BUT NOW I AM SEEING RUST BUT ITS NOT THROUGH ( NO HOLES) YET IT WAS ALLWAYS IN THE GARAGE NOW IT OUT SIDE WHY BECAUSE I PUT MY WIFES LEXUS IN THE GARAGE THE LAST FEW YEARS THEY GAVE ME A EXTENTED 10 YEARS MORE ON THE FRAME.I ALL SO HAVE A SOFT WARE PROBLEM WITH THE LEXUS ES TRANSMISSION SOFT WARE THE SHIFTING IS CRAZY ..BEEN COMPLANING SINCE IT WAS NEW.THEY ARE NOT PURSUITING PERFECTION ON THERE LEXUS OR TOYOTA PRODUCTS..I KEEP TELLING THEM IT SOFE WARE THEY KEEP TELLING ME ITS DRIVE BY WIRE.. AND THATS THE NATURE OF THE BEAST LIVE WITH IT..I DID SEARCH AND GUESS WHAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF DRIVERS COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS MODEL TRANSMISSION SHIFTING WE MUST ALL BE NUT AND CRAZY IN THERE EYES..NOW THERE PAYING WITH THE RUNAWAY BRAKE PROBLEM..ALSO ( DRIVE BY WIRE).HAY THEY SOLD MORE VEHICLES THAN ANY OF THE BIG THREE THIS LAST QUARTER...JUST LOOK UP( LEXUS ES330 TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS)
#970 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [kcram]
Apr 18, 2010 (5:43 am)
"As an owner after the program was announced (March 2008), all you will get is what you paid for it... make sure you have the original purchase receipt. The 1.5x KBB-Excellent offer is only for those who owned the truck when the program was announced." ...... As it turns out this is not true, at least in my case. My truck failed the test and I just received my offer and it's 1.5x KBB value. I have owned it 1 year and 4 months. The dealership manager said there are safeguards in place to prevent people trying to take advantage of the program but he did not go into detail. The representative I was assigned was very nice and it has gone smoothly so far. Sad to see my truck go and I am going to look at Toyota Tacomas mainly because of how this experience has gone.
#971 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [guzziv8]
by KCRam@Edmunds HOST
Apr 18, 2010 (3:20 pm)
That's certainly counter to what we have been told previously... the only scenario that would make sense is if the owner at the time the program was announced had the truck inspected and it was cleared by Toyota to stay on the road. By any chance, did you have a Carfax report on the truck when you purchased it? That mighyt show if the truck had been inspected.
kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host.
#972 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [kcram]
Apr 18, 2010 (6:07 pm)
Well, I bought it from a major dealership and it did have a carfax report on it but nothing about the frame inspection was listed. When I say major dealership, it wasn't a Toyota dealership but it was a reputable car dealership, not one of those buy at the auction, 30 cars on the lot dealerships, if that makes any sense. It's possible it was cleared via inspection because the original owner had it three years and then passed away. The truck sat in the garage for the better part of 5 years except for the neighbor coming over and starting it up and using it for lawn maintainance for the widow. She then sold it to the neighbor for very little, he then traded it in within 2 months on a Dodge 4x4 and I purchased it from the dealer. When I bought it the frame was spotless, the whole truck was as new for that matter with only 32000 miles on it. As it sits right now it looks like it's a two year old truck with a few dings and rubs. The frame actually looks great except where the gas tank and rear shock mounts are. It is really going to hell there and they did put a hammer through the frame in a few spots. I figured the buyout at 12000 and change if it was the 1.5x KBB and thats the offer I got to the dollar. The only sad part is after paying off my loan I don't think I can afford a new Toyota Xcab and the used market has really been depleted by this.