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#953 of 1369 Re: Fairly digusting article on Toyota stalling and weaseling [bigandy]
Feb 22, 2010 (4:36 am)
My 98 Tacoma ext cab 4x4 with 115K is on its way down the road. Brought it in for the 3rd time in 18 months, Toyota finally put a whole the size of a 50 cent piece in the passenger side rear, by the front spring mount. The whole frame is weak, they did dent it in many spots though.
In my estimation, the buyback and getting a new truck are two separate deals. The local Toyota dealer seems to think they are one and the same. Lowest price on a new Taco was 1000 under sticker, no loyalty or any other discounts. Granted I got 1.5 KBB Retail (11,100), but I should be getting ready for the next 100K, not spending 28,800 for a new one. They also assumed I didn't want a rental car and said my vehicle was "safe to drive". On the bright side, it helped with the decision that I won't be buying another Toyota product, as this mentality is the same as what got them in trouble.
Thinking that if I am spending 28K on a new Tacoma, might as well get a new FULL SIZE GM, Ford, Dodge or Nissan instead. Less money, nearly the same MPG and none of the bad vibes from Toyota.
My truck was bulletproof, although I am thinking that it was indeed a better vehicle when it was new than the new 2010's are now.......
Experience with the buyback was good, inspected last Wednesday, offer and acceptance Thursday, phone call on Sunday, check will be in my hand on Saturday, a little over a week.
Best of luck with everyone's Frame Rot Issues, I don't think I am going to walk away from Toyota, I am going to run away....Not cause of the recalls, but because they are overpriced and not willing to deal in the least.
#954 of 1369 Frame Coating Questions/Concerns
Feb 25, 2010 (8:41 am)
I'm quite skeptical about this rustproofing "fix". I just received my letter here in Mass to bring my truck in by the end of October to have the rustproofing applied. Apparently Mass finally gave them permission to do the coating.
Does anyone have any information on what they do exactly? Do they actually spray this rustproofing inside the boxed section of frame, as that's where the problem is, as the frame is rusting from the inside out? If they are spraying the inside the enclosed box section of the frame, how are they getting those loose rust flakes out that are built up on the bottom of the boxed section? Do they give the frame a thorough cleaning before applying the coating or do they just encapsulate the salt soaked rust and rust flakes? I'm trying to figure out how much frame prep I need to do before getting this coating, as let's face it, noone cares more about my frame than the guy who owns it. Plus Toyota has alot on their plate going well into the forseeable future. I'm wondering if I should plan on them skimping on frame prep.
This thick coating that they are spraying on the frame, won't that plug the weep holes in the bottom of the frame? My thought is this is just another not well thought out "fix" from Toyota. What I think is going to happen is the inside of the boxed section of frame won't get coated properly due to poor accessibility, salt and water will get in there, nothing will drain properly because the weep holes are plugged by the thick coating, so the interior of the boxed section will always contain moisture. It's common sense that this weep hole plugging coating will just make matters worse. But unfortunately, I have to have my frame coated to qualify for the 15 year extended warranty. I'd just as soon do what I have been doing all along, meaning cleaning and painting the frame each spring, trying to keep the oxygen away from it.
#955 of 1369 A photo is worth a thousand words....
Feb 28, 2010 (7:36 pm)
2002 Tacoma with 90,000 miles on it...
A photo is worth a thousand words....
#956 of 1369 Re: A photo is worth a thousand words.... [rustedframe]
Mar 01, 2010 (4:14 am)
Wow, your 2002 was much worse than my 98 which they bought back over the weekend!!!! And the owner of the dealer said that they fixed it in 2000 when I asked about what was different in the new trucks. I knew they were replacing frames on those trucks.
My current problem is what to buy next? I originally wanted another Tacoma, and was planning on new, but they were not giving me anything extra for buying another one, especially with the difficulties they are having.
I have to wonder, what did they do different on the 2005+ Tacoma that will keep me from having the same problem again? Good luck with your frame rust ventures!!
Mar 02, 2010 (3:38 pm)
Please keep inserted photos to 640 pixels wide - the page structure of the forums is such that it will not realign to accommodate oversize pictures.
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#958 of 1369 1999 tocoma prerunner
Mar 03, 2010 (6:03 pm)
I'm looking at purchasing a 1999 Tocoma PreRunner(120,000 miles). Now I'm reading all these issues about the frames rusting. My question is IF I buy it and there are rust issues will they replace the frame if I'm not the original owner? Any HELP is appreciated.
#959 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [mykidos]
Mar 03, 2010 (8:37 pm)
are you kidding me? even if they pay me, I would not risk owning a vehicle with potential rust issue...
#960 of 1369 You're covered.......kinda of.....
Mar 04, 2010 (10:50 am)
"I'm looking at purchasing a 1999 Tocoma PreRunner(120,000 miles). Now I'm reading all these issues about the frames rusting. My question is IF I buy it and there are rust issues will they replace the frame if I'm not the original owner? Any HELP"
Yes, Toyota does cover the frame for 15 years whether or not you're
the original owner. But you still might not be happy with the coverage.
I'm in the process of trying to get my frame done. The dealer is waiting
on Toyota to ship my frame now. Its been 9 days & counting. They will
NOT cover the loss of my trailer hitch!
#961 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [agnosto]
Mar 04, 2010 (1:39 pm)
That's kinda my thought at this point, but I'm having it check out anyway tomorrow and see what my mechanic says.
#962 of 1369 Re: 1999 tocoma prerunner [mykidos]
by KCRam@Edmunds HOST
Mar 04, 2010 (5:20 pm)
A 1999 Tacoma would not get its frame replaced - that only applies to 2001-2004 models. The 1999 would be repurchased and scrapped, and as an owner after the program was announced, you would only be entitled to a repurchase price equal to what you paid for the truck. This was done to keep people from buying Tacomas from unsuspecting owners and rolling them over for the cash... those who own 1995-2000 trucks at the time the program was announced are entitled to 15 x the KBB Excellent value of the truck.
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