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#863 of 923 03 new to me, advice appreciated by darcsound Jul 08, 2009 (5:51 pm)
Similar situation to post above from Mass, I'm here in Maine...just bought a used '03 4x4 Xcab 4cyl auto SR5 with only 18k on it, from VT, after selling my '93 Toyota which had the cancer starting on body... I knew about the 95-00 recall but had NO IDEA that 01-04's were next with problems. Guess I fell for the 18k on engine, Toyota reputation, and otherwise mint appearance of this truck. Wish I had read this thread before, my bad...   I can see rust in lots of places, can flake and peel off in lots of areas, gas tank, hangars, brake drums, lots of blotchy patches, other misc bolts, etc... can't find a hole and doubt there is one, but haven't checked out every inch. It just looks / feels rusty, I mean almost as rusty as the underside of my 93! which had OK frame but coated with surface rust. OK, not that bad, but . So, a couple questions, appreciate thoughts from anyone who has gone futher down the road I'm about to travel...   1. Dealer #1 said it passed. Can I go to another dealer now and ask for more vigorous inspection? Is there limit to how many dealers / # of inspections in given time period?   2. What are pros / cons to having frame replaced? Is truck like new or are there potential issues to worry about down the line - like the rusty brake parts, gas tank, etc?   3. Maine dealer #1 said I'd be on list to spray the frame. Anyone have this done yet? do they scrape all rust off first, including inside frame?   Thanks for any thoughts. Trying to decide whether to commit to Toyota and accessorize (Fisher plow, cap, bedliner, etc...) or punt on this 2003, and wonder what other owners are feeling. Or fearing...   Darryl Replies to this message: tcincy (Jul 10, 2009 10:15 am) thewease (Jul 10, 2009 10:34 am) darcsound (Jul 10, 2009 5:29 pm) thewease (Jul 13, 2009 4:37 am) and 1 more...
#864 of 923 99tacoma, passed again. by oho71 Jul 09, 2009 (2:40 pm)
I've got a 99 Tacoma that is beginning to show more rust on the frame. Brought it in yesterday to pinpoint an oil pan leak and had them check the frame again (was checked last year and passed). Before I spend $600 on a new oil pan: I am told this is just surface rust and that the frame is fine. There is quite a bit of loose rust--the large pastry flakes people are mentioning-- inside the frame which I can pull out. I do not want to start dumping money into a truck that isn't going to last. Here are two photos of my frame: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40274012N03/   Is this completely different from the holes in the frame? Think it will last a few more years? The local dealership was not handing out advice this week. Replies to this message: rcoole (Jul 10, 2009 6:01 am) tmiller159 (Jul 10, 2009 4:53 pm)
#865 of 923 Re: 99tacoma, passed again. [oho71] by rcoole Jul 10, 2009 (6:01 am)
Replying to: oho71 (Jul 09, 2009 2:40 pm) My 2000 Tacoma failed last July. Yours looks alot like mine did. Mine passed inspection in May of 08 but during an oil change in July 08 at another dealership they discovered a hole in front of the left rear leaf spring hanger (about an inch from the front of the hanger). It was about the diameter of a pencil eraser. It would have been very easy to overlook. I thought it was a weep hole for water, but there was a weep hole close to it and they were different. My truck had 39,000 miles on it. Just look closely for any diameter hole. Good luck!
#866 of 923 Re: 03 new to me, advice appreciated [darcsound] by tcincy Jul 10, 2009 (10:15 am)
Replying to: darcsound (Jul 08, 2009 5:51 pm) I had a 1999 Tacoma which "failed" the rust test in August, 2008, (even though very little rust was obvious), so I was able to sell it back at a great price. My brother has a 1998 Tacoma. After my buyback, he had his inspected in in October, 2008. The dealer told him it did not qualify, but since Toyota is extending the frame warranty to 15 years, he can bring it back, once a year, until 2013, and get it inspected, and further rust may qualify for buyback. If Toyota is extending all frame rust warranties to 15 years, it seems they should buy it back anytime during the 15 years. i would pin them down on the frame rust warranty, how long it is good for on any given model year, and what the options will be.
#867 of 923 Re: 03 new to me, advice appreciated [darcsound] by thewease Jul 10, 2009 (10:34 am)
Replying to: darcsound (Jul 08, 2009 5:51 pm) Darryl,   Who told you the 01-04s are now of concern? Thisis the first i have heard of this. This forum has been dealing with '95-00 years...   Chris Replies to this message: darcsound (Jul 10, 2009 5:29 pm) thewease (Jul 13, 2009 4:37 am) Red01Tacoma (Jul 13, 2009 4:50 am)
#868 of 923 99tacoma, passed again. [oho71] by tmiller159 Jul 10, 2009 (4:53 pm)
Replying to: oho71 (Jul 09, 2009 2:40 pm) The tell tale sign is when you get holes completely through the frame right behind the sway bar mounts, and on the frame around the forward leaf spring mounts. When those develop, the frame is near collapse (cracking) at the arches over the rear axle. Mine broke there on the way to the dealer for inspection on the driver's side. Your pictures do not look too bad but the rust is well on it's way. Probably develop holes in a year or two if you drive in areas where road salt is used in winter.
#869 of 923 Re: 03 new to me, advice appreciated [thewease] by darcsound Jul 10, 2009 (5:29 pm)
Replying to: thewease (Jul 10, 2009 10:34 am) Chris - Bangor Maine dealership told me, all I knew about was 95-00 as well. There are other messages in this thread referring to 01-04's, that's what led me to post. Also thread going at tacomaterritory.com forums, in fact just saw reply to my same post there from '03 owner who just got his frame replaced.   Darryl Replies to this message: thewease (Jul 13, 2009 4:37 am) Red01Tacoma (Jul 13, 2009 4:50 am)
#870 of 923 Re: 03 new to me, advice appreciated [darcsound] by thewease Jul 13, 2009 (4:37 am)
Replying to: darcsound (Jul 10, 2009 5:29 pm) Any official issuance by Toyota?   Chris Replies to this message: Red01Tacoma (Jul 13, 2009 4:50 am)
#871 of 923 Re: 03 new to me, advice appreciated [thewease] by Red01Tacoma Jul 13, 2009 (4:50 am)
Replying to: thewease (Jul 13, 2009 4:37 am) I had my 01 Tacoma Frame replaced in March. When it took the truck in for the inspection the dealership didn't know anything about the 01-05's so they contacted Toyota. It seemed to me that they weren't on the same page. The Dealership and I called Toyota and after a few phone calls it all got straightened out. My dealership was Cain Toyota in North Canton Ohio. My truck was the first frame replacement they did but last I talked with him sounded like they had another one scheduled. My Taco has been running fine. Good Luck.
#872 of 923 Found perforation on '98 Tacoma by wolfiekins Jul 16, 2009 (5:34 am)
We've owned a '98 Tacoma Xtra Cab 4x4 for over three years now and we love it. Second owners with 84K; interior immaculate, exterior very nice with only a couple tiny blisters on the rear quarters. Starts, runs, drives and performs like a champ.   http://www.edgeradio1067.com/Pads/Padfoot1.JPG http://www.edgeradio1067.com/Pads/Padfoot_Speedo.JPG   When I bought the truck, I spent a great deal of time wire brushing/sanding/priming and painting the frame rails/rockers to help protect against the salty NE Ohio winters. Everything looked rock solid then. I received the frame perforation information from Toyota about a year and a half ago and simply filed it away.   I was wire brushing yesterday in preparation for another round of sanding/priming/painting when I pushed the brush through the bottom of the frame rail just behind the tire and cab mount. I couldn't believe it! I found similar perforation to the same area on the passenger rail. Using a penlight, I found what appear to be a number of tiny holes to the rails near the rear suspension mounts and bumper bracket. Incredible!   http://www.edgeradio1067.com/Pads/Padfoot_driver1.JPG http://www.edgeradio1067.com/Pads/Padfoot_pass1.JPG   The truck is scheduled in to the local Toyota dealer for and inspection/verification on Monday, 7/20. Based on the existing condition of the frame, and what I've read, it seems very likely they'll deem my '98 to be toast.   To those who've had similar experiences, how long does it take for Toyota to decide to either repair or buy back? Is this an -on-the-spot sort of decision? Would I possibly be required to surrender the truck right then and there?   I understand that the buy back can be rather lucrative, but there are a couple of items (2 month old stereo/speakers and alloys added in August '08) that I would want to remove from the truck before it's consigned to the crusher. Should I remove them prior to the inspection?   I now have concerns about our '04 Tacoma Dbl Cab 4x4 with 95K; the frame is showing a fair amount of scale and some flaking already. Can anyone point me in the direction of any threads concerning '01-'04 Tacoma frame rust?   Thanks much in advance. Replies to this message: thewease (Jul 16, 2009 6:36 am) wolfiekins (Jul 18, 2009 4:21 am) thewease (Jul 20, 2009 6:33 am) and 7 more...

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