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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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Re: more info [kps2] by tacoscrewed
May 18, 2009 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: kps2 (May 18, 2009 11:38 am)

You should call the corporate toyota office. I don't have the number off the top of my head, but it's on their web site. After they set you up with a case #, you will eventually talk to a guy named Kevin.
 
The leaf springs should be included, they were for me.
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Re: more info by Red01Tacoma
May 18, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: kps2 (May 18, 2009 11:38 am)

I had an 01 Tacoma Extended cab and had the frame replaced. My kit INCLUDED the parking brake cables, brake lines, control arms and new leaf springs. Sounds like the Wellesely MA Toyota Dealership is trying to make a little extra money off you. The leaf springs are attatched to the new frame. I would ask them to see the new frame, I bet they are already on it.
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2001 Tacoma by pokienoze
May 18, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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I have a 2001 extended cab. The dealership replaced the frame in March. I was in Iraq when it was done and came home in April. Was anxious to try out my truck. It seemed to run fine and rode like before, however, my battery light stays on and so does the check engine light. Had a new alternator put in and the light still stays on. Truck continues to run fine. Any ideas as to why the light would stay on?
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Toyota_lifer by toyota_lifer
May 20, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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I have a 2001 Tacoma in mint condition that just failed an inspection due to rust near the rear spring shackle on the passenger's side. The Toyota dealer offered to replace the frame at a cost of 14,000 to Toyota corporate. I refused and Toyota also refused to buy back my vehicle. I am a loyal Toyota customer, but only if I am treated with the same respect and fairness as other customers who had their vehicle purchased back at 1.5 x suggested retail. I want to remain a loyal customer, we will see if it is a two way street.
 
Tom
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Re: Toyota_lifer [toyota_lifer] by mcalautt
May 20, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: toyota_lifer (May 20, 2009 6:35 pm)

well they are not offering to buy back any trucks 2001 or newer and I agree that is wrong.
I lucked out, I had a 2001 and got in the buyback just before they started the frame replacement..
what I dont understand is, why wouldnt they offer you the 14G then ?
unless you wanted more but I gave mine up in december 08 and got 16300.00 for it.
mine was in mint condition and was a loaded SR5.
 
did they offer you the 14G? i mean thats thickheaded to not offer a buyback if its going to cost 14G to replace the frame. If you can get 14 from them I would take it if I were you.. thats a far better deal than taking a 9 year old truck with a frame swap.
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Re: Toyota_lifer [toyota_lifer] by Red01Tacoma
May 21, 2009 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: toyota_lifer (May 20, 2009 6:35 pm)

I've learned alot about this entire process as I went through the same thing you are going through.
 
I tried every way in the world for them to buy back my truck. I even just wanted them to buy my truck back for the cost of the rebuild and they still refused. But after some investigation it really isn't costing Toyota that much money. The same frames are still being produced by Dana Corp ie Dana rear ends, transmitiions. Dana was the company that made the bad frames so Dana is footing the bill for the new frame and as I understand it may be paying for 1/2 the cost of labor. Toyota is really only footing the bill for 1/2 the total cost. That's why unless your truck has been so totally beat up and is only worth $5 or $6k Toyota isn't going to buy back your truck.
 
The reason they purchased the 95-00 is because those frames are no longer in production. They don't have the parts, plus the value of those Tacomas are much lower than the 01 - 05.
 
I am one of the happy owners of a Tacoma with a rebuilt frame. I had mine done at Cain Toyota in Canton Ohio. The service managers is top notch. I went in several times throughout the week to see the trucks progress. I haven't had any problems with mine and I've had it back now for 21/2 months now.
 
Good luck, I hope you find away to get Toyota to buy back your truck. I know I wasn't able to convince them.
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Re: Toyota_lifer [mcalautt] by toyota_lifer
May 26, 2009 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: mcalautt (May 20, 2009 7:31 pm)

No, they did not offer to buy mine back for 14K. And your right, if it costs them 14K to rebuild, why wouldn't they keep a satisfied customer for the same money and less headache. I am not through yet.
 
Tom
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Re: Toyota_lifer [toyota_lifer] by majnoonehh
Jun 03, 2009 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: toyota_lifer (May 26, 2009 8:33 pm)

Hi Tom,
 
Just wondering what happened with you? I have a 2001 Toy Tac with 64k. I brought it the a MA Toy Dealer and said my only option is to replace the frame and they wont buy it back. I refused there service and call the Toy Customer Care # and they have assinged me a case manager but I have yet to received a call? Any tips as to what I can do or say? I dont feel comfortable with the frame being replaced, who knows what else can go wrong. I'm a single mother and I dont want to put my kids in the truck... Dont know what to do....
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Re: Toyota_lifer [toyota_lifer] by doubleusn
Jun 03, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: toyota_lifer (May 20, 2009 6:35 pm)

Hi
 
FWIW: I went thru this nightmare last Dec, before there were even any letters sent out. I had a loaner for ~3 weeks (Tundra DCab) while I looked into my options, as I also wanted the 1.5KBB option.
 
No dice. I spent a ton of time on the phone with Toy Corp, AG's office, etc. Nobody wanted to budge or get involved.
 
I did have a good relationship with the truck sales manager (this was Taco #2) and I pitched a fair KBB trade in # (like the truck's frame was not part of the equation), and also an aggressive # on a new truck that the KBB Trade # would be applied to.
 
They called me back the next day and went for it. In the long run for what the new one cost in this market + plus dealer incentives, and the KBB Trade # being applied to it, it wasn't the worst situation in the world.
 
It wasn't the 1.5KBB retail, but time is also money and I didn't have the time to wait this one out and again this is before they even had letters out. I was the first frame my dealership did under this campaign. (They didn't even have frames, was gonna be 6 weeks to even get one)
 
Short version = Maybe a possible outcome for you, if it works for you, and from all my dealings this is really a Toy Corp thing and the dealers are caught in the middle somewhat. Again, if it will work for you (new ride with trade #) maybe throw it at the wall to see if it sticks. I also went this route as while I I wish everybody the best, IMHO a frame replacement will render the truck 'never the same again'.
 
Good luck
-wsn
 
PS: My dealer has my old truck on their used lot now, I wonder if they have to disclose the situation to a prospective buyer?
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Re: Toyota_lifer [majnoonehh] by tmiller159
Jun 03, 2009 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: majnoonehh (Jun 03, 2009 11:23 am)

I had my 98 inspected and it failed. The frame rotted through and broke on the way to the dealer!! Good thing it was at night with no traffic! I drove 40mph the rest of the way. Long story short, they bought it back for $13,800. 4x4 SR5 with 140K miles. Body was great. Ran great, needed nothing. I was trying to find a frame to swap into my truck but they were all gone, for good reason I guess. I ended up with a new 2008 4x4 SR5 V6 TRD for a $12K loan! Not bad for a new truck with a $29K sticker!
I would let them replace the frame. They are good people and want to make it right. 2001-on Tacoma's do not fall under the buy back program. Get it done and quit fighting city hall. It will work and if you find anything wrong afterwards, have them make it right. Let me know how it works out.
Tom Miller

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