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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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Re: When did you all hear? [vtjlg] by Red01Tacoma
Mar 21, 2009 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: vtjlg (Mar 21, 2009 3:03 pm)

I noticed a 6 inch hole in the side of the frame and just took it in. It should be ready next Thursday. The dealership should by now be aware of everything. Good luck.
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Thinking of buying a Tacoma by bubblepuppy
Mar 22, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Are there ANY good Tacomas within the years 1996-2004 out there, or are they ALL suspect? I still see plenty of this vintage for sale at dealer lots. I wonder how many of THOSE show signs of frame decomposition? I also wonder if I asked the sales folks permission to whack the frame with a hammer, if they'd let me? (hehehe).
 
I am in the market for a Tacoma sized truck from this era (price-driven), and honestly can't think of any other make/model/style that I'd rather own. So my question is this...what are the odds of finding a Taco of this vintage that will last as long as it should?
 
Also, if these trucks are so bad (Not to doubt ANYTHING I have read here), how come all the automotive reviews websites (including Consumer Reports, MSN autos, etc), STILL rate the used Tacomas as excellent vehicles to buy? NOT ONE MENTION on Consumer Reports of any frame problems? Also, almost all the personal reviewers RAVE about this vehicle. Don't believe me, see for yourselves. Am I delusional, or could it be that you folks are the "vocal minority"?
 
I'd be curious to know how many folks here know of people who have NO ISSUES with their Tacos' frames, especially up north in snowy climates?
 
I guess I'd like one kinda badly, and need to be talked out of buying one. Of course, I'd have my mechanic inspect it first.
 
Thanks
 
PS: I am truly sorry for those who've been BONED by Toyota. Some of your stories are almost heartbreaking.
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Re: Thinking of buying a Tacoma [bubblepuppy] by mcalautt
Mar 22, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: bubblepuppy (Mar 22, 2009 9:05 am)

from what I understood, they are all affected.
but if they are not in a high salt area then they prob wont have a frame issue.
other than the frame having a problem with corrosion protection, the truck is rock solid.( no pun)
I loved my truck and it was typical toyota quality.
I assume that CR and others rave about it because they have not and may never experience this frame issue depending on where they live.
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Re: Thinking of buying a Tacoma [bubblepuppy] by mrbill1957
Mar 22, 2009 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: bubblepuppy (Mar 22, 2009 9:05 am)

I have a 95 Tacoma, live in Wisconsin where alot of salt is used, and so far the frame looks good. Just a few small areas where the paint wore off and a little surface rust started. Granted, I only have 110k miles on mine, but have been using it as a winter driver for most of it's life.
 
The sales brochure for the 95 and 1/2 states: Tacoma's tough anti-corrosive steel frame resists rusting. That's one of the reasons I bought the truck. Sounds like something changed in the years following the first year?
 
Mrbill
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Re: Thinking of buying a Tacoma [mrbill1957] by bubblepuppy
Mar 22, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: mrbill1957 (Mar 22, 2009 5:54 pm)

Mrbill ,
 
Was your VIN within the "Extended Warranty" range? Have you had your dealer give it "the inspection"? Have you taken any extraordinary protective measures under carriage? Are you the original owner?
 
thanks for the post...maybe I'll hafta aim for a 1995.0 or older. Guess I'd get "more truck" for the $$ that way.
 
thanks for posting.
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Re: Thinking of buying a Tacoma [bubblepuppy] by jjbillings
Mar 23, 2009 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: bubblepuppy (Mar 22, 2009 9:05 am)

I think all frames are suspect. However my father has an 02 with 170,000 miles, frame is still good. I also have friends with 03's and 04's with various amounts of miles. Also good frames. My 01 is bad, 180,000. I even tried to keep my truck clean underneath. We all live in Mass.
 
I love my truck, and even with all this pain and suffering, wouldn't buy anything else. I
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Re: Thinking of buying a Tacoma [bubblepuppy] by mrbill1957
Mar 23, 2009 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: bubblepuppy (Mar 22, 2009 6:57 pm)

My 95 is under the extended warranty, I got the notice in the mail. I haven't formally had my truck inspected by the dealer, I have a friend that works for Toyota, he informally verified it's good. I figure I'll bring it in just before the extended warranty runs out.
 
I purchased the truck new, and did have it undercoated. Although it may have helped with the outside of the frame from rusting, I don't think they did any spraying on the inside of the "box" of the frame, and other posts stated the rust is bad on the inside and outside the frame. I poked around myself in just about every hole I could reach into and did not find any scale. There must be some truth in the statement from Toyota that not all frames are prone to the problem.
 
Kind of ironic for me, I wouldn't mind replacing my truck, but would rather get the 1.5x the KBB value for a rusted frame.
 
BTW, mine is a 4x2, I wonder if the frame is different on a 4x4? The posts usually don't state if there truck is a 4x2 or 4x4.
 
Mrbill
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after the frame swap by mags6
Mar 24, 2009 (4:45 am)
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Hello. Has everyone who has had the frame swap satisfied with the results? Was there any misc. damage done during this process like dings and dents or scratches? I read somewhere they can do this in has little as 12 hours-wow. Please, some more remarks on the finished project would be appreciated. Thanks again.
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Re: 1999 Toyota Tacoma Frame Problem [montucky] by linni57
Mar 24, 2009 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: montucky (Mar 30, 2007 4:26 pm)

My daughter just had her 95 tacoma bought back. On her first free inspection, her vehicle passed. Approximately 8 months later she had a cab mount go. The people who originally inspected it, told her she could weld a new cab mount to the frame and were kind enough to price a cab mount for her. That would have voided her recall, as welding would have weakened the frame. She had gone in to get another inspection done before doing any work to it, which they refused to do. I had her call the dealer where I bought my 04 for Toyota's headquarters tel. #., and we also made an appt. for this dealer to reinspect the frame. They were willing to do it on a Saturday so she would not loose another day of work. Headquarters did contact the 1st dealer about this and they did call back offering to look at her vehicle. But having already made the appt. at the second dealer, we went there.
It was about a 3 hour drive from where we lived, but the 1st dealers reputation is not very good and we did not want to deal with them at that point. Her second inspection showed a hole in the frame, and both of her cab mounts were gone.
She also lost her brakes on the way over. When the rep. who met her asked, he could not believe they jepordized her life that way. All I can say is know your dealer
& check out their reputation before going to see them.
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Frame Swap-2004 by linni57
Mar 24, 2009 (5:02 am)
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I own a 2004 Tacoma and have not been notified by Toyota about this. I am having some work done today and asked my mechanic while he was underneath it to look it over for me. My mechanic is the one who told us about it when we stopped in to make an appt. to have some work done.

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