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Mar 10, 2009 (4:58 am)
I have not written in a while because I wanted to really get a feel for things, but I have been driving my '01 Tacoma with the new frame, etc. for three weeks now.
No complaints. Handles better than when I bought it in 2003 and I have done my best to beat the hell out of it too to put Toyota's work to the test.
Buyback wasn't an option for me, as with most of you I'm sure, but it's better than nothing and we all know that the "big three" would have told us to kiss their ass.
Anyway, if there are specific questions I can answer, let me know.
#775 of 1369 Re: Frame Swapped [Sambone5769]
Mar 10, 2009 (9:09 am)
Hi and congrats on your successful swap. I have a 1983 Toyota sr5 that I still drive. I have rustproofed it regularly and for the most part have kept rust at bay. I am looking to buy a 2001 Tacoma Double Cab with 57000 mi. The frame pasted inspection but I am sure it will need a replacement sometime in the near future. It is comforting to hear you are satisfied with the work done. Anyway, do you know if the steel in these frames is any better than the original frame steel. Has it been treated for rust prior to installation? Thanks for you time.
#776 of 1369 Taco back and OK
Mar 10, 2009 (10:16 am)
Hello all! -- Have been out of town, but now post "The News"
Ref my post of Feb 09 - believe I may be the first one here to get my Taco back w/ the replacement frame. On Feb 10 I stopped by the dealer to ask a few questions re the replacement - Svc Mgr said "it's apart - want to see it?"
There was my Taco - in pieces/chunks/components up/down etc. Frame was across the service area - naked (covered w/ a lovely light golden rust color!). At that point they were waiting for the replacement kit. Well, they must have gotten it in the next day, because they called my on Feb 13 to tell me it was done!. Only problem was they couldn't align the front wheels due tie rods ends "frozen" and they couldn't free them up. I argued why this not included in the work order (if frame hadn't needed replacemernt I wouldn't be facing that problem), but they were adament that it was not part of the deal. So I had to spring for new - cost $410 w/ labor - which labor I believe should have been included in the process - but will take that up w/ Toyota.
Picked it up on Feb 14. They did a nice job - truck feels/runs like new, no rattles/squeaks. Only thing I noticed was that front and rear body sections are very slightly misaligned - gap between them maybe 1/4" larger on one side than the other. No big deal - shouldn't affect aerodynamics at 70 mph.
Mar 11, 2009 (4:42 am)
My 01' Taco's frame comes today and I was told I should have the truck back by the end of next week. I'm glad to hear from the folks on here that they have had no major issues thus far with their replacements as I am going through it right now. Rust inhibitor will be the next step -but my question is this - If we are getting new frames due to the old ones rotting out why doesn't Toyota or (DANA -the manufacturer) put rust inhibitor/preventative on/in them prior to the swap to help prevent future issues? Just an idea for Toyota I guess - just makes good common sense to me.
#778 of 1369 Re: Frame comes today! [silver01taco]
Mar 11, 2009 (4:53 am)
in theory they are suppose to apply the protection during the manufacturing process.
usually what they do is negatively or positively charge the frames and then do the opposite to the inhibitor as they dip the frames.
Not sure why they are telling you they are going to do it after the install.
that does not sound good to me, sounds like they are going to undercoat it which is a friggin mess and doesnt protect anything.
#779 of 1369 Re: Frame comes today! [silver01taco]
Mar 11, 2009 (5:03 am)
I am also glad to hear replacements are going well. I ended up opting out of it as my circumstances did not allow for it to be an option to me.
I am glad to hear that things are going well for folks and now that frames are avail things seem to be speeding up. Many folks had been waiting a long time for frames, and my 02 was deemed bad before there even was a letter to send out.
Question to All: Does anybody know what product they are using to spray under the ones that are rusty, but are not considered a failure.
Question to All 2: Do we know if the 2005-200x model run corectd the problem?
My understanding was it is a rust from lack of protection spray problem, but also a design flaw in the frame so that moisture does no drain properly.
#780 of 1369 Re: Frame comes today! [doubleusn]
Mar 11, 2009 (5:13 am)
Not sure about what undercoating they are talking about applying. I was told the NEW frames they were manufacturing have a different rust protection, specifically having the rust preventative baked on as opposed to just sprayed on.
I can't fathom why they would tell you they are putting an undercoating on (which doesn't do anything except increase the problem) other than to make you feel better.
I'm curious how the 2005 and up frames are holding up... unless they have addressed the problem, we'll probably be hearing about this in a year or two.
#781 of 1369 Re: Frame comes today! [Sambone5769]
Mar 11, 2009 (5:24 am)
Thanks for the reply
It was my understanding is that frames that were not rusted (not being replaced) out per se were getting something applied to them instead, under this program, to reduce the risk going fwd. I was wondering what product they were using for this.
I was in a situation where 'waiting' for a frame and using my truck 'after a frame swap' was not an option for me.
I argued with corp for many many weeks, and ended up working out a 'fair' deal with my dealer.
This fair deal now includes me having an 09 TRD OF. I am just trying to gather info on the 2005+ frames, etc under the guise of preventing anything on the 09 now vs later.
Thanks again for the email.
#782 of 1369 rust proof...
Mar 11, 2009 (8:29 am)
The new frame has a 15 yr. rust warranty on it.....the way i see it, the new frame will out last almost every truck body it is put under.........
PS mine has been back for 2 weeks and is doing fine- i plan on watching how my tires wear .........
#783 of 1369 Re: rust proof... [rachelf]
Mar 11, 2009 (2:04 pm)
Just wondering - the 2001 Tacoma Double Cab I am looking to purchase has had its frame tested and it passed even though it is VERY rusty. It was sprayed with some black tar like inhibitor. Do I have more than one shot at being tested? I am assuming I would have 6 more years before the warranty ends and still have the option of frame replacement if it rusts through. Would anyone know for sure.