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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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#755 of 929
by screwed4
Feb 26, 2009 (7:04 pm)
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message continued...around feb 12, 2008, received a call from latonya, from impartial services, wow, she is really friendly, professional, unlike the case manager, she informed me I was included in the buyback, I asked her over the phone the amount, and she said 16,300.00. I had 3 days to accept the offer, and fax the contract back to impartial services. I meet with the rep on March 7th to pick up check and hand over the keys to my 2002, and although it is in excellent condition, 65,000 miles, God answered my prayers to take this unsafe truck away.
 
Everybody MUST write as many letters as possible...
 
It is Toyotas responsibility to include every truck in the repurchase program with faulty frames from dana.
 
as I have read, many newer models 05 and 06 are starting with frame rust issues.
 
Not to sound stupid, where do I find when my truck was produced? it is 1 2002, so I suppose in was produced in 2001.
 
Good Luck Everyone!!!
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Re: [screwed4] by screwed4
Feb 26, 2009 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: screwed4 (Feb 26, 2009 7:04 pm)

anybody on this board from the Boston area??
 
I had researched online and found where Boston channel 5 had previously done an investigation on earlier models with rust, I contacted them, they responded, asking me if I would consider doing an interview, However, I am not located in boston, but anbody interested, her name was jennifer bearman. I just went to the website, and told them my story: I explained they needed to do another investigation as to the owners of 2001-2004, are being discrimated against. as you know..they have bought back 2001's and 2002's, why are they being selective?? Not fair..can do it for one, should do it for all. These trucks need to be removed from the highway ASAP!!
 
so, for the ones still fighting for the buyback channel 5 in boston did seem interested,maybe they would do phone interviews if you are not in that area, at least that was going to be my next step.
 
I honestly feel that i was included in the buyback because I hounded them daily, and wrote complaints to EVERYONE!!
hey, I bought this truck for its depenability and toyotas reputation.
Toyota is not a cheap vehicle, we have all bought them for their dependability.
 
I encorage everybody to not give up if you have not recived your frame yet, demand to be in the buyback.
#757 of 929
by screwed4
Feb 26, 2009 (7:32 pm)
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post number 648 on this board really got me going, for those still fighting for buyback , I encourage you to go back to that post and read.
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Re: [screwed4] by mcalautt
Feb 26, 2009 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: screwed4 (Feb 26, 2009 7:04 pm)

what the ???
 
"excellent condition, 65,000 miles"???
a 2002 ? and u got 16300?
 
was your truck a V6 SR5 automatic 4x4 ?
I hope not because I got bought back a few weeks ago and got 16385 .
my truck was a 2001 SR5 auto v6 4x4 with 136+ miles.
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Re: [screwed4] by mcalautt
Feb 26, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: screwed4 (Feb 26, 2009 7:26 pm)

I AM
 
im about 25 mins north of boston !
 
I think I saw that investigation done by channel 5 and I am totally against the frame
replacement
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Re: 1997 Taco Inspection [Sambone5769] by jpf
Feb 28, 2009 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Jan 16, 2009 9:47 am)

Tacoma owners may want to consider a product called Krown Rust Control. It's been around in Canada for a long time. I used it for many years when lived in Ontario. See attached link:
http://www.krown.com/
Good luck.
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Frame swap not so bad by jjbillings
Mar 02, 2009 (9:42 am)
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I have been reading this forum for several months now. I have an 01 Double cab that will be needing a frame replacement soon. I wanted to take a minute to alleviate the stress some of you are feeling about getting a frame replacement. It's not as scary as you think.
 
Even though the scale of the job is larger than normal (big nuts and bolts), it should be an easy job for any competent technician. If you would trust a dealership, or any mechanic for that matter to do any specialized work (brakes, suspension, steering, etc...) a frame swap is no different.
 
There seems to be this idea that these trucks were somehow magically assembled by brilliant scientists. Each one hand fit together. No chance. These trucks were designed to be easily assembled, and can easily be taken apart. Rust and corrosion will hinder the process, but all the rusty hardware will be replaced.
 
I've monitored the first 2 swaps at a local dealership, as I know several techs there. Everything and anything that might be needed for the job with the exception of exhaust parts, is included in the kit. Other's have listed the parts in previous posts, so I won't repeat it. The total retail cost of the parts plus 60 hrs labor was around $14,000!!! Thats a lot of new parts for an older truck.
 
If you maintained your truck for the long run, this swap should make you feel even better about getting many more years out of it. Don't get me wrong, Toyota definitely screwed up, but they are trying to fix it (more so than most manufacturers would). I think it would make sense to continue the buy-back, as they can fix the trade-ins and resell them. Anyway, relax, get the new frame if you need it. The truck will be safe and reliable.
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Re: Frame swap not so bad [jjbillings] by mcalautt
Mar 02, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: jjbillings (Mar 02, 2009 9:42 am)

Not sure what experience you have directly with the repair of vehicles but your analogy about a frame swap being the same as brakes, suspension etc is wrong.
further more, no manufacturer builds cars to be easily disassembled.
car and trucks are designed and built as efficient as possible as to save the manufacturer time and money on the assembly line.... Frame swap is a very big job. if you get a rolling chassis ( everything built into the frame that is needed) then it would not be as bad but the simple fact is, when you disturb electrical connectors and other fasteners that have been in one position for a long time, odds are there are going to be problems. Most likely your concern should be with electrical.
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Re: Frame swap not so bad [mcalautt] by jjbillings
Mar 02, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Mar 02, 2009 9:56 am)

mcalautt:
"Not sure what experience you have directly with the repair of vehicles but your analogy about a frame swap being the same as brakes, suspension etc is wrong. "
 
mcalautt: I have many years of service experience, but more importantly, I owned a 1985 Toyota truck that I replaced the frame on. (As you can imagine I am a little ticked that I am 0 for 2 with toyota truck frames) I admit, I was a little weary at first, but the job overall went very smooth. After the swap, I drove it daily for 5 more years and 120,000 more miles trouble free ( I still own it)
 
An experienced tech, should know how to properly remove electrical connectors. And, if one should get damaged, fix it. Were talking vehicles that are 8 years old in the worst case.
 
Talking with techs who have done 2 frame swaps already, it went much smoother than anyone first anticipated.
 
My analogy to brakes, steering, etc..., was in the trust that someone who works on your vehicle will put it back together safely. El-cheepo tire barns who mount tires, install valve stems, and bolt wheels on everyday have an equal amount of responsibility, as would someone doing a frame swap. I guess everyone takes that kind of work for granted.
 
It's important to understand that this is just my opinion. Most people who know me, hold my opinion in high regard. I wanted to convey some optimism in an otherwise gloomy forum.
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Re: Framed [rachelf] by mags6
Mar 02, 2009 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: rachelf (Feb 22, 2009 12:31 pm)

Hi rachelf! Just wondering if any knows- are the new frames made of any better steel than the old ones that have rusted away? I am looking at a 2001 Tacoma Double Cab 4D in Ontario, Canada. This is also the land of the oh so salted roads. The truck is mint with 56000 miles on it. The frame looks pretty rusted but was tested Toyota Canada and had the "punch test" done. It "passed" and was sprayed with some covering that is supposed to protect it. Mmmmmmmm. I think that once rust in introduced it just keeps eating away at the steel and spreading. Should I buy this truck???? After reading all the comments here I am wondering. I sure it will need "frame replacement in the future. Any and all comments and suggestions greatly appreciated.

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