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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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Re: Another disappointed Toyota owner [screwed4] by mcalautt
Feb 18, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: screwed4 (Feb 18, 2009 6:12 am)

YES fight for the buy back
the frame replacment is a scam.
I had an 01 and fought my way into a buyback.
but the later it gets the less likely you will get a buyback.
they really are just stating a frame replacement or nothing.
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Re: Another disappointed Toyota owner [screwed4] by tacoma200111
Feb 19, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: screwed4 (Feb 18, 2009 5:37 am)

I'm a tacoma 2001 owner and have been told by the dealship that the paper work for the frame replacement needs to be put in with Toyota first and that for 2001 and older the only option is replacement, unless parts take longer than 30 days.
 
I'm hoping for the 30 days and will be pursuing all avenues on the buy back.
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01 tacoma owner with bad frame by Red01Tacoma
Feb 20, 2009 (8:44 am)
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01 tacoma owner with bad frame by Red01Tacoma
Feb 20, 2009 (8:50 am)
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My 01 Tacoma has failed inspection. If someone from Toyota is listening: I do not want the truck back with all the problems that will come with taking apart the truck and putting it back together. I want an option of you giving me KBB as a trade in and I am willing to purchase a new Toyota. Why aren't you offering something other than just the frame replacement? If you read these blogs, your loyal customers are asking for other alternatives to the new frames. Most are not asking for 150% buy back, but something in-between.
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Tacoma by lostmytaco
Feb 20, 2009 (5:22 pm)
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Has anyone seen any of the tacoma's at a junk yard being crushed like everyone has been told that what was going to happen to them
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by grammyd
Feb 21, 2009 (10:47 pm)
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2001 - 2004 Canadian Tacoma Owners take a look.. copied from Yotatech
 
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Subject: Advanced Notification on Customer Satisfaction Campaign 917 – Warranty Coverage Extension for Tacoma Frame Rust Corrosion Perforation
 
For your advanced information, TCI will be initiating a Customer Satisfaction Campaign 917 on certain 2001 through 2004 Model Year Tacoma vehicles to extend the warranty coverage for perforation of the vehicle’s frame caused by rust corrosion.
 
In order to receive the warranty extension, customers must bring in their vehicle to an authorized Toyota dealer for inspection and to have a Corrosion-Resistant Treatment applied to the frame and (where necessary) any frame repairs performed.
 
Q1: What is the condition?
 
A1: Toyota has received reports regarding a number of 2001 through 2004 model year Tacoma vehicles exhibiting excessive rust corrosion to the frame, causing perforation of the metal.
 
Q1a: What is the cause of this condition?
 
A1a: The frames on a number of vehicles may not have adequate corrosion-resistant protection. This combined with prolonged exposure to road salts and other environmental factors may contribute to the development of excessive rust corrosion in the frames of some vehicles. This is unrelated to and separate from normal surface rust which is commonly found on metallic surfaces after some years of usage and/or exposure to the environment.
 
Q2: What is Toyota going to do?
 
A2: Although the vehicle’s frame is covered by Toyota’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty for 3 years or 60,000 kilometers (whichever comes first), we at Toyota care about the customer’s overall experience and confidence in their vehicle. To assure our customers that we stand behind the product, we will extend the warranty coverage, for a total of fifteen years/unlimited mileage from the vehicle’s in-service date, on the vehicle’s frame for this specific condition, subject to the terms and conditions outlined in the owner notification letter.
 
Q3: Is it a safety issue?
 
A3: No. All iron based metallic material will eventually rust. This issue is related to inadequate corrosion-resistance protection, therefore, we believe this is a long term durability issue.
 
Q4: Is this a recall?
 
A4: No. This is an extension of the warranty coverage on 2001 through 2004 model year Tacoma vehicles for perforation of the vehicle’s frame caused by rust corrosion. This warranty extension, subject to certain conditions, will be provided for a period of 15 years with no mileage limitation from the vehicle’s in-service date, for this specific condition.
 
Q5: Why is Toyota launching this Customer Satisfaction Campaign?
 
A5: We at Toyota care about the customer’s overall experience with and confidence in their vehicle. To assure our customers that we stand behind the product, we are providing, subject to certain terms and conditions detailed in the Owner’s letter, an extension of the warranty coverage on certain 2001 through 2004 model year Tacoma vehicles for perforation of the vehicle’s frame caused by rust corrosion.
 
Q6: What are some of the terms and conditions of the Warranty Extension?
 
A6: In order for the warranty enhancement to apply, the customer must bring the vehicle to a Toyota dealer before October 31, 2010. The dealer will inspect the condition of the frame and apply a corrosion-resistant treatment at no charge to the customer. Owners of affected vehicles will receive the details of this program in the owner notification.
 
Q7: Does this Customer Satisfaction Campaign apply to rusted body panels?
 
A7: No. This Customer Satisfaction Campaign only applies to the frame of certain 2001 to 2004 model year Tacoma vehicles.
 
Q8: Are 1995 to 2000 model year Tacomas covered under this program?
 
A8: No. Toyota launched a Customer Support Program in early 2008 for 1995 to 2000 model year Tacoma vehicles.
 
Q9: Are there any other Toyota or Lexus models included in this program?
 
A9: No. This Warranty Enhancement only applies to 2001 to 2004 Model Year Tacoma vehicles.
 
Q10: What is Toyota’s standard rust perforation warranty coverage for the frame?
 
A10: Under the Toyota New Vehicle Warranty, the frame is covered by Toyota’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty for 3 years or 60,000 kilometers (whichever comes first). This is typical practice in the automotive industry.
 
Q11: When did you learn about this condition?
 
A11: We began to investigate this issue in 2001 through 2004 trucks in the first quarter of 2008.
 
Q12: What is involved in the corrosion-resistant treatment?
 
A12: Any Toyota dealership will inspect the condition of the vehicle’s frame and apply a corrosion-resistant treatment. The treatment will be applied to both external and internal surfaces of the frame to enhance the corrosion protection of the Tacoma’s frame.
 
Q13: How long will the corrosion-resistant treatment take?
 
A13: The treatment process is an overnight process. However, depending upon the dealer’s work
schedule, it may be necessary to make the vehicle available for a longer period of time. During the corrosion-resistant treatment process, however, the Toyota dealer will arrange for a complimentary loaner vehicle for the customer’s use at no charge while the vehicle is being treated.
 
Q14: What is the warranty on the corrosion-resistant treatment?
 
A14: The frame on Tacoma vehicles included in this program will be covered by the warranty enhancement. The enhancement, subject to the terms and conditions outlined in the owner notification letter, is for a period of 15 years with no mileage limitations from the vehicle’s in service date for perforation of the vehicle’s frame caused by rust corrosion.
 
Q15: What if a vehicle has already experienced this condition?
 
A15: Any Toyota dealer will inspect the vehicle’s frame and apply the corrosion-resistant treatment if the frame is not perforated due to this condition. If the inspection of the vehicles confirms excessive rust corrosion to the frame causing perforation of the metal, Toyota will, at its option, either repair or repurchase the vehicle.
 
Q16: What is Toyota going to do if perforation of the vehicle’s frame caused by rust corrosion is found?
 
A16: Upon confirmation, Toyota will, at its option, either repair or repurchase the vehicle.
 
Q17: Is there any special consideration in the case of vehicle repurchase?
 
A17: In the case of repurchase, Toyota Canada will reimburse the customer for the value of their vehicle up to 1.5 times the Canadian Black Book® Suggested Retail Value or at original MSRP when the vehicle was purchased, whichever is lower. The vehicle will be assessed as a vehicle in excellent condition regardless of the vehicle’s actual condition; however, a deduction will be made for moderate damage and/or missing components. Owners will receive detailed information about the terms and conditions for this program in the owner notificat
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Framed by rachelf
Feb 22, 2009 (12:31 pm)
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Picking up newly framed Taco on Tue. wondering if i should sign off on the repair- I am worried about the extended warranty.. I know it is inevitable that I will have new issues/problems due to this "repair" but will this warranty cover those problems.....
any ideas or experience out there? I am not psyched to be one of the first to go thru this.........kinda like a surgeons first procedure...............
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Re: Framed [rachelf] by silver01taco
Feb 22, 2009 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: rachelf (Feb 22, 2009 12:31 pm)

Hi Rachel - you're one of the first on here to be reframed. I am awaiting the parts for the process for my 01' Tacoma 4x4 myself at Kinderhook Toyota in upstate NY and am curious how your experience has been. I'm currently second in line -I guess it's better than being the guinea pig . I'm also curious about the folks out there that may have received buybacks with their 01'-04's. What Toyota numbers did you call? -what extensions? Did you all have to go through a case worker? Any help you can give would be appreciated - I've already called the attorney generals office, and contacted other government officials that are supposed to be working "for us" to try to get something done about this major issue.
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by mcalautt
Feb 22, 2009 (2:39 pm)
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I am willing to bet that nothing but the frame and components replaced will be covered by warranty later down the road unless something happen as a result of the frame replacement. for example. you have a fuse that keeps blowing. the mechanic determines that it was a wire that got pinched when they bolted the body back onto the frame.. Here is the catch, toyota wont warranty something that was screwed up during installation so now you would need the mechanic to admit he screwed up.
not good odds.
I would get in writing what is actually covered and I would specifically ask the service manager as well as your toyota case manager to answer this question.
this is why I have said all along that the frame replacement is a joke and toyota is screwing their customers.
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Re: Framed [silver01taco] by mcalautt
Feb 22, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: silver01taco (Feb 22, 2009 12:47 pm)

I got a buyback and mine was an 01.
there is no special number to call.
i lucked out because I had mine inspected and failed just prior to them coming out with the frame replacement program. they tried to tell me I was getting a frame and I said NO.
i fought and they gave in.. but i dont think that will happen now.

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