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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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Re: It gets better and better ... [doubleusn] by Sambone5769
Feb 01, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: doubleusn (Feb 01, 2009 11:55 am)

I never considered the rental a liability till it hit me in the pocket personally, and I can't afford things like this right now. I really can't afford a new payment.
 
However, I think it might be in my best interests to take a spin around there used lot and see if there is something that might work as a trade. Even if they offered me top KBB for my Taco, that's not saying a whole lot since the value has plummeted recently.
 
I'd like to get a truck back. Not a TOY that breaks if it's sneezed on wrong. I use my truck, it's not just for looks.
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Re: It gets better and better ... [Sambone5769] by mcalautt
Feb 01, 2009 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Feb 01, 2009 1:05 pm)

Sambone5769 your wrong.
why buy another toyota after this run around and blatant disregard for your safety.
I will never buy a toyota again and not because of the quality, shit happens,
but the way they are treating people sux.
further more, trade in your taco now for nothing, the dealership will get the frame paid for the same way and turn around and sell it for much more and tell the buyer " dont worry about the frame problem you heard of sir, this has a new frame with a 15 year warranty.."
DONT GIVE EM UR MONEY..
u want a truck ? buy a ridgeline.. look at consumer reports.. it got awesome accross the board
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Re: It gets better and better ... [mcalautt] by Sambone5769
Feb 01, 2009 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Feb 01, 2009 5:53 pm)

No no no - you misunderstood me. I've been burned enough that I'm through with Toyota. Unless some amazing change comes over corporate's regard for their customers and our safety, then they can kiss my grits.
I wanted a Tacoma ever since I saw Back to the Future. No joke. Finally got mine and spent a lot of happy years driving it and telling everyone I know how great and dependable and reliable they are. And now this?
Dont misunderstand, when I get another truck, it will NOT be a Toyota.
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loaner land....... by rachelf
Feb 02, 2009 (8:06 am)
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Turned in my Taco on Fri. am now driving a Kia Sportage at Toyota's expense......have no idea on time frame- neither does the dealer- they are going to evaluate current condition based on passing inspection ( I need a new gas tank- mine rusted- what a coincidence......) then we are going to make "an agreement on what the frame repair will include" sounds squeaky to me..we'll see.
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Re: .. [jokerman17] by doubleusn
Feb 02, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: jokerman17 (Feb 01, 2009 1:03 pm)

Dealer said 8+ weeks last week of Dec, but we both acknowledged it was a SWAG at best.
 
In the end I think Corp is jerking the dealers around just as much.
 
I was also skeptical of a new Tacoma but this is all my dealer sells.
 
One may have better luck at a multivendor dealer.
 
Just thinking out loud.
 
FWIW: It has been six weeks and still no letter and I know my old 02 is still just sitting there.
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Re: .. [doubleusn] by mcalautt
Feb 02, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: doubleusn (Feb 02, 2009 8:19 am)

sorry samboni.. glad you are not giving them your money.
 
doublesn,
 
you are not obligated to buy a truck from the dealer your getting yours "fixed" at.
so go to another dealer after yours get fixed.
Odds are ( i assume) the new tacoma's will not have the same frame problem but this is a matter of morals.
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Re: .. [mcalautt] by doubleusn
Feb 02, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Feb 02, 2009 8:25 am)

Agreed, but for clarity's sake.
 
I didn't wanna wait 3-6 months for this to happen, I didn't want the rental liability, and mostly didn't want the hassle of waiting.
 
I agree I am gambling, but the dealer now owns the problem, and I can walk away per se.
 
I got a trade number from the dealer a few days before my frame problem was discovered (I like to keep up on what things are worth). They honored this number in my 09 deal, and also heavily discounted their 09.
 
Everybody has different situations. If I had the time and my cal was clearer I would have waited it out, but it was not the case.
 
Some here have the time, some don't want the hassle, some want anything but Toyota, some wanna keep their truck, just have to go with what works best for you.
 
What I did was the best version of walking away I could get, and I needed to do that.
 
Cheers
-wsn
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Finally done by theiglu
Feb 02, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: doubleusn (Feb 02, 2009 8:47 am)

Drove my '01 TRD to the dealership Friday afternoon. The lady handling the buyback was nice, had me sign the bill of sale, title and handed me the check. Didn't even look at my truck first.
 
I have since purchased a 2002 Tacoma regular cab for very short money. Going into this knowing about frame replacements, I can't complain and actually look forward to having new suspension done when the frame finally goes. It just sucks to lose your truck that you thought you would have forever, not so bad when you keep in mind the frame warranty while buying used. If it was a low milage or decent shape truck, I'd complain, but for a used vehicle with 116k on it, free leaf springs/frame/suspension/etc is pretty decent. Think i'll have them do my clutch while they are in there.
 
I have until 2017 for the 2002, so far the frame is solid.
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Here we go...... by rachelf
Feb 02, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Dealer calls me today to say what i need to be done to pass inspection- other than the frame kit : rotors and pads, gas tank and shield and an e brake....all for $ 2100.00
Yikes......i dont even need the e- brake ( mine is frozen).
I am going to have my local mechanic do all of this for1/2 the price........kind of a bummer to see the greed coming from Toyota..........Hey, how did 01' people get the buy out and not the 02? Should i hound Kevin on this?
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by rusty01tacoma
Feb 03, 2009 (9:45 am)
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This is an email I sent to TOYOTA CANADA today:
 
Hi, I have a 2001 Tacoma. I appreciate the buyback program you offered for the earlier models. I'm sure your sales of 09 tacomas increased because of it. My problem is that I do not officially qualify for the buyback even though I have the EXACT same symptoms/problems. I know about the frame replacement but I did not buy my tacoma to have its frame swapped out. This is unheard of. What I need clarification on is the reason as to why some 2001 tacoma owners are getting buyback at %100, some at %150, and some don't even get offered the buyback, and yet again, some are told their trucks don't qualify for any program at all, and are left to drive their unsafe, uninspectible trucks away empty handed due to no fault of their own. It can't be the dealers deciding to buyback certain 2001's because if they are not officialy included in the buyback then TOYOTA corporation would not reimburse them. So in my mind I believe that TOYOTA CORP has given them instructions to buyback certain 2001 models. If this is the case then it is discrimination against 2001 owners and it should be made officical that all 2001's are eligible for buyback. Please let me know what is going on here. I am too scared to even bring my truck to the dealer yet because I am afraid of what the outcome will be and my option for repair, if any at all. Please get back to me ASAP.
 
Let's see how long and what kind of response I get back.

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