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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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Re: It gets better and better ... [Sambone5769] by jokerman17
Feb 01, 2009 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Jan 31, 2009 5:05 pm)

You got to lose the loaner and get something off a lease or off their used car lot.Four hundred for a plastic container and bumper brackets,this is what I been droning about all along. The cost on this frame job is insane for a outside body shop to just order a frame retail price is 3gs. Toyota isn't making and shipping these parts for nothing and like others have written you know they will make us eat something. You can hit 2 grand out of pocket in the blink of an eye. I really believe what happened is toyota thought the frame problem was just in the trucks before 01. They figured since they can' get them anymore and your dealing with ten year old vehicles, the answer was obvious a buyout. Than they realized recently 01 to 04 different frame,same problem, OH SHIT! I personally was told last month my 01 does not have this problem,made at a different plant yada yada yada. Maybe they will hit the trifecta and find 05 to the present is wrong,who can say. Toyota may have forgot how to rustproof frames but they are not totally stupid and know they have to think this out for the best possible solution.I think the truck value will come into play and if you are the original owner and who yells the loudest.Has anybody been to a dealership that has done this job? I'm still trying to just get mine on the lift still no call back for an appointment. Looking forward to "the letter" January has come and gone,still nothing by pony express. Really looking forward to phase two of this maybe tomorrow maybe next year. One thing for sure if they go thru with this your talking about a long line at the deli.
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Re: It gets better and better ... [Sambone5769] by doubleusn
Feb 01, 2009 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Jan 31, 2009 5:05 pm)

Hi
 
This is the other reason I worked a trade-in deal with my dealer.
 
Having their rental is a liability, and can become an extra expense in this already nightmare-ish problem.
 
If you can and it's in the cards for you, get your dealer to take yours in trade kbb trade value (as if the frame problem did not exist) and then take it to buy an aggressively discounted new car from them.
 
You do sadly get a new payment, but you also get a new car, and the nightmare goes away. They also get a 'sale' at a time when they need them and Corp will pay for frame work (not the dealer).
 
It worked for me. Didn't want a payment, but more so didn't want the nightmare to last another 6 months... or longer.
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.. [doubleusn] by jokerman17
Feb 01, 2009 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: doubleusn (Feb 01, 2009 11:55 am)

I am glad it worked out for you. What I would like to know did the dealer give you any kind of time frame if they were to fix it and were you allowed to leave with your truck. I am totally confused at what they are telling you guys.Old Bones is like it ain't no thing toyota is on it and everything will be great. Others are saying it is a total runaround. In a nutshell any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Re: It gets better and better ... [doubleusn] by Sambone5769
Feb 01, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: doubleusn (Feb 01, 2009 11:55 am)

I never considered the rental a liability till it hit me in the pocket personally, and I can't afford things like this right now. I really can't afford a new payment.
 
However, I think it might be in my best interests to take a spin around there used lot and see if there is something that might work as a trade. Even if they offered me top KBB for my Taco, that's not saying a whole lot since the value has plummeted recently.
 
I'd like to get a truck back. Not a TOY that breaks if it's sneezed on wrong. I use my truck, it's not just for looks.
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Re: It gets better and better ... [Sambone5769] by mcalautt
Feb 01, 2009 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Feb 01, 2009 1:05 pm)

Sambone5769 your wrong.
why buy another toyota after this run around and blatant disregard for your safety.
I will never buy a toyota again and not because of the quality, shit happens,
but the way they are treating people sux.
further more, trade in your taco now for nothing, the dealership will get the frame paid for the same way and turn around and sell it for much more and tell the buyer " dont worry about the frame problem you heard of sir, this has a new frame with a 15 year warranty.."
DONT GIVE EM UR MONEY..
u want a truck ? buy a ridgeline.. look at consumer reports.. it got awesome accross the board
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Re: It gets better and better ... [mcalautt] by Sambone5769
Feb 01, 2009 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Feb 01, 2009 5:53 pm)

No no no - you misunderstood me. I've been burned enough that I'm through with Toyota. Unless some amazing change comes over corporate's regard for their customers and our safety, then they can kiss my grits.
I wanted a Tacoma ever since I saw Back to the Future. No joke. Finally got mine and spent a lot of happy years driving it and telling everyone I know how great and dependable and reliable they are. And now this?
Dont misunderstand, when I get another truck, it will NOT be a Toyota.
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loaner land....... by rachelf
Feb 02, 2009 (8:06 am)
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Turned in my Taco on Fri. am now driving a Kia Sportage at Toyota's expense......have no idea on time frame- neither does the dealer- they are going to evaluate current condition based on passing inspection ( I need a new gas tank- mine rusted- what a coincidence......) then we are going to make "an agreement on what the frame repair will include" sounds squeaky to me..we'll see.
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Re: .. [jokerman17] by doubleusn
Feb 02, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: jokerman17 (Feb 01, 2009 1:03 pm)

Dealer said 8+ weeks last week of Dec, but we both acknowledged it was a SWAG at best.
 
In the end I think Corp is jerking the dealers around just as much.
 
I was also skeptical of a new Tacoma but this is all my dealer sells.
 
One may have better luck at a multivendor dealer.
 
Just thinking out loud.
 
FWIW: It has been six weeks and still no letter and I know my old 02 is still just sitting there.
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Re: .. [doubleusn] by mcalautt
Feb 02, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: doubleusn (Feb 02, 2009 8:19 am)

sorry samboni.. glad you are not giving them your money.
 
doublesn,
 
you are not obligated to buy a truck from the dealer your getting yours "fixed" at.
so go to another dealer after yours get fixed.
Odds are ( i assume) the new tacoma's will not have the same frame problem but this is a matter of morals.
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Re: .. [mcalautt] by doubleusn
Feb 02, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Feb 02, 2009 8:25 am)

Agreed, but for clarity's sake.
 
I didn't wanna wait 3-6 months for this to happen, I didn't want the rental liability, and mostly didn't want the hassle of waiting.
 
I agree I am gambling, but the dealer now owns the problem, and I can walk away per se.
 
I got a trade number from the dealer a few days before my frame problem was discovered (I like to keep up on what things are worth). They honored this number in my 09 deal, and also heavily discounted their 09.
 
Everybody has different situations. If I had the time and my cal was clearer I would have waited it out, but it was not the case.
 
Some here have the time, some don't want the hassle, some want anything but Toyota, some wanna keep their truck, just have to go with what works best for you.
 
What I did was the best version of walking away I could get, and I needed to do that.
 
Cheers
-wsn

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