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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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Re: [mcalautt] by pataco01
Jan 27, 2009 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Jan 27, 2009 12:37 pm)

Yeah, bought my wife an '05 Nissan Xterra Off Road. Absolutely love it. It would run circles around my 3.4L taco. I really like the '03 and up Frontiers, and I did see the new Suzukis in a quad mag. Not real crazy with the bed on the Honda though. The bedsides are too high for my liking. My dealer told me to just tell him what year/make/model/mileage and he'll find it for me. Just wondering what I'll get for my truck though.
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more info by cman23
Jan 28, 2009 (11:41 am)
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I recently posted some info regarding the frame replacement, the kit will consist of new brake lines,parking brake cable, front control arms and rear leaf springs. There are a few other items, but it is unclear exactly what they are, I would imagine hardware. Hopefully this is beneficial to some of you. The frames are being provided by DANA corp in KY, which should be available very shortly.
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Re: more info [cman23] by doubleusn
Jan 28, 2009 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: cman23 (Jan 28, 2009 11:41 am)

Thanks for the info.
 
For clarity, do we know...
 
1) When was the last year this frame model was used in tacomas? (1995 - 2004?)
2) Are the 2005 and newer ones using a different design?
3) Is Dana the supplier of the original bad frames, or just the replacement ones?
4) Who makes the frames for 2005 - 2009 model run?
 
Thanks
-wsn
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Tacoma Frame Rust by oldbones
Jan 29, 2009 (3:15 pm)
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I too have a 2001 Tacoma with a rusted frame. The dealer now has my truck and gave another vehicle for my use while the frame is replaced. I don't understand all of the noise people are making about the problem. We all bought Tacomas because of their quality and Toyota's reputation. I read where many of the trucks have several hundred thousands of miles and the only problem has been the frame. Toyota has stepped up to the plate and agrees to repair them. It is an inconvenience but I am sure Toyota will do a quality repair just as they do in manufacturing the vehicle in the first place. Just imagine if there were a similar problem with a truck made by an American manufacturer. We would all be getting zip! So let's give Toyota a chance to repair these trucks. It is understandable that people would want a new truck for free but it is not realistic. There are tens of thousands of trucks that will require repair at a tremendous cost to Toyota. Have patience --- life is too short!
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Re: Tacoma Frame Rust [oldbones] by doubleusn
Jan 29, 2009 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: oldbones (Jan 29, 2009 3:15 pm)

I speak for only myself, but Toyota's lack of communication in this matter is what bothers me the most. I asked for a reasonable time frame that the work would be done in, what parts would be replaced, and the going forward warranty. I asked for it in writing, multiple times. Toyota Corp said "no". I think my requests were very fair given the work being undertaken. Toyota was also very arrogant when I made these inquiry's about 'My' truck.
 
Again everybody has their own things that work for them, but Toyota's lack of communication (still no letter yet) and arogant attitude is what upset me.
 
As far as the loaner goes. Some people want 'their' trucks. This is not a 3 day deal, it will be many months. Also Toyota offers no insurance on their rental, that burden is also on you.
 
Toyota has also known about this for some time but has chosen 'saving face' in the media over alerting people asap as they are maybe riding around with loved ones in a potentialy structually unsafe (in crash) truck.
 
Again to each their own, but while it may work for you, the outlined points above, in my opinion, justify people's anger.
 
-wsn
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Re: Tacoma Frame Rust [doubleusn] by pataco01
Jan 29, 2009 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: doubleusn (Jan 29, 2009 3:40 pm)

My thoughts exactly. I've been driving around in my truck with my 15mo. old daughter everyday! Believe me, I appreciate the loaner and my dealership has been pretty good but they still don't know anything yet either. Toyota corp. has been the worst though. They won't tell me anything and expect me to thank them when this was their (or whoever they sub'd the frames out to) fault. And I still haven't gotten a letter.
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Re: Tacoma Frame Rust [pataco01] by mcalautt
Jan 30, 2009 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: pataco01 (Jan 29, 2009 6:29 pm)

ya thats exactly the attittude they have..
that is an excellent way to put it..
They act as if they are doing us a favor. My rep (kevin) kept saying this was a good will decision for me because I have an 01 but got into the buyback program.
He kept saying it as if to shut me up because I was lucky to be getting a check instead of the frame. He kept saying how the "program" my truck fell into does not offer a buyback only a frame replacement. So I asked, Kevo, what would your answer be if we were having this conversation 6 months ago when there wasnt a "program" for the 01-04 trucks?. I got no answer.
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Re: Tacoma Frame Rust [mcalautt] by theiglu
Jan 30, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Jan 30, 2009 4:23 am)

I had my truck taken away on Nov 5th.
 
I'm scheduled to get my check for my 2001 TRD in less than two hours.
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Crazy to put new frames in old trucks by jokerman17
Jan 31, 2009 (12:30 pm)
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I would like to say this forum was very helpful for me and this is obviously a huge problem for toyota.. By reading this forum and gathering information it was at least fun to get service writers back peddling. What a friggin nightmare I have a 01 tacoma and to me toytota is nuts to put a new frame in vehicles worth about six grand.My truck was rear ended and needs 2 grand worth of work and I told the body shop to hold off,since I can drive it and wait to see what my frame status is..He told me the frame was changed in 01 and that explains the 98 to 2000 buy back they can't get them as someone posted. The retail price of a frame I was told is 3 grand,to me it would make sense for toyota to make some kind of offer to owners,if they would buy a new truck. I am also waiting for my letter and a call back from the dealer for a appointment.The frame warranty I believe he said is for fifteen years and the 01 to 04 trucks have just been added as a potential problem,last month I was told the 01 is fine. .Oh and that this is not a recall I guess just a huge blunder.Living in new jersey I feel it's not a question of if the frame will rust out it's just how soon. No wonder the beds are now made of plastic they probably would make the whole truck out of plastic if they could.
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Re: Crazy to put new frames in old trucks [jokerman17] by mcalautt
Jan 31, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: jokerman17 (Jan 31, 2009 12:30 pm)

your 01 will rot out if its in or around new england.
it isnt a recall, im not sure how toyota got away with this not being a recall but they did. Maybe because they call it a "buy back" program and they "extend" the warranty on the frames.
In my experience, it didnt seem to matter if you were going to buy another toyota.
I had initially said that to the boston rep that came to look at my truck at the dealership and then when ISG called me with an offer I declined because I thought I should have got a little more. My case manager called me and basically said I was lucky and that this was a "good will" buy back.
As I mentioned before, he claims " we are not in the business of buying trucks back".
so that made my decision simple.
I wont ever give my money to toyota again.
As I said before, they act as if we are lucky they are even doing anything.
Also, think of this... Toyota had a 3rd party company manufacture these frames so you can only assume toyota is going after them as well so toyota will be compensated in some way so its not totally out of pocket for them.

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