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#656 of 926 Re: 1997 Taco Inspection [matthewota] by Sambone5769 Jan 16, 2009 (9:47 am)
Replying to: matthewota (Jan 16, 2009 9:31 am) Undercoating only does so much. It tends to trap whatever is already on the frame beneath the undercoat and just speed up the rusting process. This is particularly true with road salt. Welcome to New England! Replies to this message: jpf (Feb 28, 2009 2:54 pm)
#657 of 926 Re: frame game...... [bearcatter] by mcalautt Jan 16, 2009 (6:24 pm)
Replying to: bearcatter (Jan 16, 2009 7:52 am) the frame replacement is a bad idea has I have mentioned before however I heard that the frame will come with kits containing new bolts and related parts that they expect to be rusty.
#658 of 926 Anyone get a letter yet? by deebone Jan 17, 2009 (5:56 pm)
Has anyone with a 2001 - 2004 Taco received a letter yet detailing the new frame replacement program? My case manager told me letters were going out in early January, yet my dealer's service manager (whom I check with at least weekly) still has not heard any details about what the dealers are supposed to be doing or when. I agree with mcalautt, frame replacement is a bad idea, and I've had other ASE mechanics tell me the same thing. My case manager told me that it will be at the dealer's discretion what gets replaced as part of the frame transplant vs. what the Taco owner needs to lay out $$$ for. That will just result in more PO'd Taco owners... Replies to this message: mcalautt (Jan 17, 2009 7:46 pm)
#659 of 926 Re: Anyone get a letter yet? [deebone] by mcalautt Jan 17, 2009 (7:46 pm)
Replying to: deebone (Jan 17, 2009 5:56 pm) Its my opinion that toyota does not care.. they are only concerned about how much they will need to pay out. I have a 2001 and was lucky to fall into a buy out. My case manger (Kevin) basically is the middle man between us and corporate. He made sure he kept saying that they are buying mine back as "good will" as the 2001 - 2004's are all getting a frame replacement. I argued that frame replacements are NOT the answer and that toyota is going to really damage their customer reputation. HE said " we are not in the business of buying trucks back" I dont have enough room here to begin to tell you what I said. Imagine that, they are not in the business to buy trucks.. I said, "consumers are not in business to buy trucks that only last 5 to 6 years.
#660 of 926 Re: bostonchannel5 [screwed4] by daleyplanit Jan 19, 2009 (9:06 am)
Replying to: screwed4 (Jan 15, 2009 11:37 am) Hey! That was me reccomending the contact with BC5. I've tried in vain to get my local, Albany NY paper and TV stations involved. I'm glad you made some headway. If there is anything you need at all I'd be happy to help. I have pictures from others and copies of every letter I've written as well. please keep the board posted and share the video!   thanks Replies to this message: hockeyeast (Jan 19, 2009 1:14 pm)
#661 of 926 Re: bostonchannel5 [daleyplanit] by hockeyeast Jan 19, 2009 (1:14 pm)
Replying to: daleyplanit (Jan 19, 2009 9:06 am) If you want to get the local papers involved, just blame it all on George Bush.
#662 of 926 Re: frame game...... [bearcatter] by JRB2002 Jan 21, 2009 (5:00 pm)
Replying to: bearcatter (Jan 16, 2009 7:52 am) I am in agreement with the others who have posted. I own a 2002 with a rusted frame. When I spoke with Toyota Corporate about it they advised that Toyota will only replace the frames and not buyback any of the 2001-04 trucks. I too feel I should not be responsible for the numerous items that are bound to fail when performing such a major undertaking. Toyota will not even specify what they are will replace beyond the frame itself. I paid more money for a Toyota truck because I had believed in their legendary reliability and durability. Toyota needs to do right by us owners of later model Tacomas by providing the same program offered to owners of 1995-2000 Tacomas. We should not be discriminated just because we purchased newer model trucks. Replies to this message: mcalautt (Jan 21, 2009 5:39 pm)
#663 of 926 Re: frame game...... [JRB2002] by mcalautt Jan 21, 2009 (5:39 pm)
Replying to: JRB2002 (Jan 21, 2009 5:00 pm) I agree with you., the case manager I had (kevin) claims there were no frames avail for the 95 - 00 tacomas which is why there was a buy back. the bottom line is, even though they are pretending to care, they dont. they are only concerned about their total cost on all of this.
#664 of 926 frame game...... by rachelf Jan 21, 2009 (6:10 pm)
So I went to my local mechanic- a great and honest man, and he put my truck up on the lift and proceeded to show me just how much stuff is related to the frame.... I also saw the rust on the frame, which is bad- but not horrible- YET. Here are a few things that will need to be replaced because of removing the existing frame: Engine mounts Cad mounts Upper and Lower suspension along w/ control arm......this will lead to a need for re-alignment Brake lines and brackets Fuel line and brackets Spare tire mount Evap unit All this and probably more- he guesstimated the cost at $2000 ! Plus I already have an existing whole in my gas tank (from rust.what a surprise) I go into my dealer next week to turn in my truck (my inspection expires 1/31/09) . I am going to try and negotiate w/ the dealer on these repairs.......we'll see what happens. I am not very good at playing the heavy- but I will not pay for repairs that I am not responsible for. BTW, my mechanic chrged me $16 for the look over.......i should just take the parts and let him do the work.......
#665 of 926 frame info by cman23 Jan 23, 2009 (6:09 am)
Just a little info about the 01-04 vehicles, there will be 1,000 frames available at the end of the month. The frames are being manufactured in a plant in Kentucky and were originally manufactured in the U.S. and obviously assembled at the NUMMI plant in Fremont, CA.   There is no technical procedure released at this point for the frame replacement, and no info as to what is included with the repair kit. They obviously know what the major components are that will need replacement along with the frame. My suggestion is to seek a dealership with a Body Shop if at all posssible, they will be more familiar with the type of repair and procedures involved.

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