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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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Re: 2001 taco failed [Sambone5769] by pataco01
Jan 10, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Jan 10, 2009 11:51 am)

I was told that what came on the frame depended on your VIN #. Basically they don't really know either, and that's from Kevin Toyota. He did say nuts and bolts and the "usual" stuff that breaks with a project like this. I'm hoping that means brake/fuel lines and hopefully rear leafs. They did tell me that my body lift will be reinstalled and I will get the truck back the way it sits now. So I hope this new frame works out.
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From my A.G. ... by Sambone5769
Jan 12, 2009 (9:03 am)
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Just got his reply from my State A.G.'s office ...
 
"Your e-mail was forwarded to me. I have heard of the volunteer buyback plan from Toyota. I do understand your vehicle is not covered under this plan. Because this is a volunteer program that Toyota is doing and not required we cannot mediate your complaint. I would encourage you to keep the line of communication open with Toyota’s customer service. It is your only course for addressing this issue. It the volunteer changes and you are then covered we could then try to mediate the situation. But as it stands now, we cannot do anything."
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Re: CLASS ACTION SUIT LIST [reuser] by pataco01
Jan 12, 2009 (12:38 pm)
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Yeah, I signed up for that too. Toyota was very smart how they went about all this. They're very adamant about not calling this a recall. That basically keeps us from being able to do anything about it. This is pretty much a "goodwill" effort on Toyota's part.
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by pataco01
Jan 12, 2009 (12:43 pm)
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Someone on here earlier suggested going to the local news. I think I'm gonna give this a try because how many people are out there in these unsafe trucks? I still wouldn't know about my truck if I hadn't been underneath working on my rear diff. People need to know about this and there's only a few threads beside this one that have any info on this problem.
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Re: From my A.G. ... [reuser] by screwed4
Jan 12, 2009 (1:29 pm)
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I too have filed under the autosafety.org, as well as the attorney general, and better business bureau. Has anbody retained a lawyer yet on the safety concerns with the 2001 -2004? If so, I am interested to hear from you. A frame replacement is unacceptable. The truck will never be right again. In my local small town, there is only one other tacoma, a 2001, so far that they will be doing a frame swap on. My truck is a 2002, which I was told on November 11, 2008, that I was to be included in the BB. I have real safety concerns with this frame swap, again, like I said earlier, I am not sure the mechanics are not qualified to do this correctly. I had the oppurtunity to see a boneyard of the toyota's they had collected, most of them were almost split in half, the cab just seperated, in a V shape, scary, huh? God forbid I am in a wreck, I wonder what impact this would have? These trucks are not safe to be on the road. Has anbody contacted their insurance company? I wonder what they would say about this issue, would they want to cover an unsafe rusted frame? Anybody know about the value of these trucks after frame replacement? Has anbody got a frame replacement yet? My dealership told me that they were not in yet.
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Re: From my A.G. ... [Sambone5769] by tcincy
Jan 12, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Jan 12, 2009 9:03 am)

if the State AG will not take it as a "voluntary program" then how about just plain old "Consumer Complaint" or "Lemon Law" complaint?
 
"It is your only course for addressing this issue"????
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
 
I'd be p****d.
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Re: From my A.G. ... [tcincy] by Sambone5769
Jan 13, 2009 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: tcincy (Jan 12, 2009 6:23 pm)

I asked her to clarify, and she said that our Tacomas did not qualify under the "Lemon Law" as they were more than three years old.
I'm still a little fuzzy on the details, but because there is no OFFICIAL recall underway, I guess they can't mediate? I don't get it. I was doing my civil duty to inform the state that there are countless Tacoma owners driving around in potential killing machines oblivious to their dangerous predicament, and with assurances from Toyota that their trucks are fine. Has anyone received a letter or notification from Toyota that their 01-04 Tacomas might be in trouble and to have them checked out?
This is scary.
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Compliants and value by daleyplanit
Jan 13, 2009 (10:59 am)
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Up until a month ago I was probably one of the most active people on this list. I recently bought a house, so I had to shift my time from advocating on this issue to navigating mortages, realtors, insurance, inspections, and negotations. It's a good thing Toyota doesn't make houses, many of us would be homeless. Anyway.... Here's the message I keep touting...
 
Take the time and write the appropriate agencies about this issue.
  
Southland California Better Business Bureau
Your state attorney general's office
Your state consumer protection board
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
Your state and federal assemblyman and congressman
Local news (tv and newspaper)
60 minutes and Dateline
Various internet complaint centers like the Autosafety.org
   
I have form letters, adresses, advice for documentaion, and I'm more than happy to help you. I had a 2001 Tacoma and was RIPPED off by Toyota. I'll do everything in my power to make sure that
1. Dangerous trucks are taken off the road.
2. Toyota pays a fair market value for those trucks
3. All customers affected get the same treatment. Currently, 2001 and newer truck owners are completely hung out to dry. No loaner, no full value, no dealership asistance.
  
I know a few people are talking about class action stuff, but that won't happen until an attorney feels the pressure is on enough to take this case head one. Toyota is a multi-billion dollar corporation, and without strength in numbers, I doubt much will happen. Keep making calls, kee writing letters, and keep the pressure on.
 
Toyota gave me $3,000 less than what I paid for my truck when I bought it last year. I recently heard toyota has formalized the 2001+ buyback program. If this is so - what are people getting? Rental? 150%? I got niether and I'm considering going for the rest in small claims court but not without vlaidation that Toyota has stepped up to the plate for some folks but not others.

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