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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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tocoma recall by horselover2
Jan 07, 2009 (6:36 am)
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I am totally disgusted with Toyota. They have had my truck for more than 2months and just told me that now they will replace the frame. It has sat for the 2 months ...in tocoma land...rotting...literally.
 I am refusing the offer and have contacted the DOT and my Attorney General's office. They said I am the only one they have heard from and one is not enough to make a difference. The plan is unacceptable. If you want to make them change the offer to a more fair one...everyone should be contacting their Attorney General, The DOT and their local politicians.
 We bought the toyota with trust in their integrity and now they are not standing by their vehicles with substandard frames. The vehicle will be worth less and we are taking the loss.
 We need a class action suit and we need to not give up and take what they offer.
 My dealer said they do not even have the frames..it will be a long process.
 Did anyone recieve official paper work from Toyota stating their plan?
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Re: In limbo about my 2001 ... [mcalautt] by bigbe
Jan 07, 2009 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Jan 06, 2009 6:31 am)

Hi Thanks for the reply! I dont believe it You cant get a brake! Just shoot me
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Re: tocoma recall [horselover2] by Sambone5769
Jan 07, 2009 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: horselover2 (Jan 07, 2009 6:36 am)

2 months with no resolution in sight? Damn.
I've yet to hear back from Toyota and don't want a new frame. I filed an official complaint with NHTSB (or whatever it is). I will file with DOT as per your suggestion and look into the State Attourney General as well.
I love my truck, but I really LOVED it's reliability and high resale value. Now what do I have?
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Re: tocoma recall [Sambone5769] by mcalautt
Jan 07, 2009 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Jan 07, 2009 7:27 am)

exactly..
everyone has to step UP.
the DOT and AG need to hear it in numbers unfortunately..
As far as Im concerned a frame replacement is unacceptable
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Re: tocoma recall [mcalautt] by Sambone5769
Jan 07, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: mcalautt (Jan 07, 2009 7:48 am)

Well, I have officially filed a complaint with the DOT and State A.G. as well.
I want Toyota to do right by me and everyone else, but it's scary to think how many other Tacoma owners are out there who have no clue that they may be putting themselves, their families and others in harms way.
I informed a coworker with an 04 Tacoma that his truck might have frame problems as well and he was NOT happy.
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Re: tocoma recall [Sambone5769] by mcalautt
Jan 07, 2009 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: Sambone5769 (Jan 07, 2009 10:04 am)

I still dont know when the official frame problem ends.
I have looked around but got no answers.
as far as toyota was concerned, it only affected 95 - 00.
Now they are acknowledging 2001 - 2004 but whos to say it doesnt exist in 05, 06 or 07 ?
 
somewhere earlier in this thread I believe a toyota rep put in some "official" info about the buy back program but I dont think he has added any new info.
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Re: tocoma recall [horselover2] by hockeyeast
Jan 07, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: horselover2 (Jan 07, 2009 6:36 am)

Do not give up on your ag. Make noise! I turned my truck in in april. i am still shocked at the # of trucks that have this problem. I had a 96 and I still miss the truck, but I bought a nissian. I could not trust the later models from doing the same thing. It looks like I was right. Just a shame as toyota owners were and are some of the most loyal.
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Taco hole grande by deebone
Jan 07, 2009 (6:05 pm)
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I've been watching this thread for a few weeks now. I heard about the buyback program over the summer, but since my Taco is a 2001, it forgot about it for a while. Discovered a hole in my frame about a 6 weeks ago, and opened a case with Toyota shortly thereafter. My case manager told me about 2 weeks ago that the frame replacement program was coming, and buyback's would no longer be offered, even though some 2001's were bought back as a gesture of "good will". I've made repeated attempts to escalate and requests for inclusion in that group of good will buybacks, to no avail. The case manager also told me dealers were trained up and ready to go with the frame replacement program right now, but they were just waiting for the frame kits to arrive. As of yesterday, my dealer's service manager still knew nothing about the 2001-2004 program, other than one was allegedly in the works. That communication gap does not instill a high level of confidence if I'm one of the first ones through the dealer's service bay doors under this program; seems more likely my truck will be used for some on-the-job training. I've also expressed repeatedly to Toyota my dissatisfaction with not at least having the option of buyback vs. frame replacement, but so far that has gotten me little more than an "I'll make a note of that" response. Starting in '94, I've purchased 3 pickups (even before they were known as Tacoma's) but the way the 2001 - 2004 owners are being treated leaves me less than enthused about re-upping for #4.
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Re: Taco hole grande [deebone] by mcalautt
Jan 07, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: deebone (Jan 07, 2009 6:05 pm)

I think that your case manager may be lying. I refuse to believe all the dealers were trained to do frame replacements.. The fact of the matter is, there is no "training" nor does any tech need to be trained.. If you know cars and your mechanically inclined you can do it.. It is a lot of nuts and bolts. The problems (as I have stated before) is 99% of dealers pay their techs flat rate and I'm not convinced that any of these dealers are equipped to handle such a big job.. The unfortunate truth is, Toyota is looking out for themselves are far as how much this mess will cost them and replacing frames is cheaper.
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Re: Toyota Frame Rust Buy-Back Program [tcincy] by screwed4
Jan 08, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: tcincy (Nov 09, 2008 4:25 pm)

we have same problem, 2002 toyota, we go in for an oil change on November 11, 2008, and to fix the check engine light, well we got an oil change, the service tech informs us, about the repurchase program, we were speechless, we own a bucket of rust. The manager at dealership, said everybody is receiving a quite lucrative offer. next day, rep shows up to determine that yes indeed there is a problem. within, 45 days you will receive and offer in the mail. Nothing, nothing. finally get through at the 1 800 number, and were we told this yesterday, oh we are so sorry, but the repurchase program has ended in december, but we say we filed our case on November 12th, oh no she says, ms. bishop, I believe her name is--we are now replacing the frame. This is unacceptable.....I took advice from this forum to file a complaint through dot.Everybody needs to complain, yes, we are getting screwed. a new frame...scary I think, how can it ever be right, any warranty with this? my local dealership will not help us with any of it. Shaffer Toyota, cumberland, maryland. They tell us, it is now out of our hands, well whatta bunch of crap did they sell us?? oh, i mean a rust bucket. we are disgusted to the end! Not to mention the bill they gave us of 110.00 for oil change, and to put it up on the lift. Never fixed the check engine light. First guy, says oh, it is unsafe, you will get a rental, the other guy says, oh it is driveable. Confused, pissed off, any suggestions would be appreciated, with those dealing with the same problem.

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