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#519 of 924 2001 and newer by daleyplanit Nov 09, 2008 (6:36 am)
Chkman - Toyota tells me that the 2001 and newer trucks are not covered because the frame was treated for rust in different manner than the 2000 and oder trucks. If this is true, why are there so many 2001 and newer trucks with frame rust problems?   The real issue here is drivers of 2001 and newer trucks (that should be less likely to have the damage, and are worth more than older trucks) are facing THE SAME PROBLEM. Yet, the aggravating thing is when we wak into a dealership these guys spit in our faces. There's no loaner, there's no expidited check, the dealer will not let us keep the unsafe-to-drive trucks on the lot while we wait for compensation. Worse yet- the dealer offers NO ASSISTANCE. "Can't drive your truck? you JUST bought it and now it's completely rusted. Tough $hi+. call 1-800-go-toyota and keep your fingers crossed."   Really outrageous business practice. GM may build terrible cars, but it's Toyota that should be staring at bankrupcy. I know of 5 or six people in my family who will not purchase a toyota after hearing about this issue. Sick and tired of this. PS - it's been 60 days and counting - no check yet.
#520 of 924 Re: Toyota Frame Rust Buy-Back Program [theiglu] by daleyplanit Nov 09, 2008 (6:45 am)
Replying to: theiglu (Nov 08, 2008 11:43 am) Chkman and theiglu   You both mentioned cases of getting a loaner for 2001 model year failures. Is this up to the dealership to decide? I don't understand why I was declined the option. My dealership (Lia Toyota in Colonie NY) refused my requests I'll call out the Toyota care representatives I've spoken to - Joey Lopez and Autumn Branch - both told me that there was no way I could get a loaner or be reimbursed for one. WTF is going on here? I've been out of a car for 60 days!!!!
#525 of 924 Re: Toyota Frame Rust Buy-Back Program [chkman] by tcincy Nov 09, 2008 (4:25 pm)
chkman: Yes, you're correct. I thought his Toyota was older and covered under the program like mine. But I still propose that ANY Tacoma owner who has rust on the frame file a complaint wiht the NTSB and Toyota, and word it very clearly that it is a SAFETY ISSUE. That way, enough owners complain in writing, then it there may very well be a recall. I certainly consider rusted frames to be a safety issue and so should any Taco owner, whether covered under the rust buyback or not. Thanks again for the correction. Replies to this message: screwed4 (Jan 08, 2009 10:47 am) mcalautt (Jan 08, 2009 11:36 am) doubleusn (Jan 08, 2009 4:45 pm)
#527 of 924 re: loaners and lemon law by daleyplanit Nov 12, 2008 (7:38 am)
here is NY's lemon law   http://autopedia.com/html/LemonLaw/NewYork_NY_lemonlaw2.html   NY AG's office   http://www.oag.state.ny.us/bureaus/consumer_frauds/tips/usedcar_lemon_factsheet.- - - html   Cars Covered by the NY Used Car Lemon Law Include any car that: 1. was purchased, leased or transferred after the earlier of 18,000 miles or two years from original delivery; AND 2. was purchased or leased from a New York dealer; AND 3. had a purchase price or lease value of at least $1,500; AND 4. has been driven less than 100,000 miles at the time of purchase/lease; AND is used primarily for personal purposes. Unfortuately, in my case I'm not eligable for the protection. I bought my truck in March of 2007 with 102,000 miles - see #4 I bought m truck in NJ - #2 I had 129k on the clock when the frame rust was discovered.#1   Ugh! talk about bad luck!!! I have no dealer history with lia (the place that inspected when i bought the truck and then found the frame damage 18 months later. They're not my favorate place on the planet - perhaps they should have found indications of rust back in march of 2007.   Tcincy is right- this is a safety issue. I wrote to notify my DMV inspection shop unit who informed me that they know about the problem with the 1995-2000 trucks, but because toyota never issued a bulliten for newer trucks, there was no warning to shops about the 2001 and newer models. Kinda scary, huh? If firestone hadn't seen this before, and hadn't notified me about the damage and buy-back, i could have been killed in an accident had I been driving around. Scary, huh? I don't know how many people are out there tooling around in these trucks, but i know when the frames start failing, and people are being hurt, toyota will (and should) hava massive class action lawsuit on their hands. They shouldn't say they had no knowledge of the danger. Considering I have quite a bit of stock in toyota, i should write the SEC. Toyota's ignorance is a sign they aren't willing to face the liability of class action exposure - and they are open to risk of a lawsuit that will surely lower the value of their stock. That kind of ignorace is criminal. if I had the time and patience I'd try the angle, but I've been too busy with the safety issue to go after them for fraud.

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