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Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem

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2001 Tacoma problems rusty frame by johnny66
Oct 31, 2008 (5:22 pm)
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I know that the buy back on the trucks is only for 1995-2000. I have also seen the vin #s covered. I have a 2001 Tacoma that has a section of the frame on the passenger side near the leaf springs, that is rusted completely through for approximately 3'. This section of the box frame is about to fall off. Does anyone have any ideas? We have had the truck inspected and the dealership said it is the worst they have seen, but of course it isn't covered by the program. We have a case started with Toyota but would like some other avenues to explore. I will post a picture a little later. This is my girlfriend's and she has only made 4 payments on it. This only reinforces the reason i drive a Chevy and always will. The bottom of the Toyota looks like it is 30 years old. From Illinois
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Re: 2001 Tacoma problems rusty frame [johnny66] by daleyplanit
Nov 01, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: johnny66 (Oct 31, 2008 5:22 pm)

Illonios-
 
I am having the same problem. The dealer failed my truck, and i had to fight tooth an nail to get money (note NOT nearly what my trucks was worth). PLEASE do youself a favor and contact the following
 
southland cali BBB
your state attorney general
your state consumer protection board
 
the AT and CB will get you into a mediation program if you ask.
 
if they drag their feet contact your state and federal senate and representatives.
 
it may take a day of letters, but unless you twist their arms toyota won;t do anything.
 
I've had to fight every step of the way, but the alternative was a unsafe truck i cound not drive or sell. At least i got some money (they say they will give me thousands under KBB)
 
feel free to email me for help, i'm more than happy to.
-Martin
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Re: 2001 Rotted Taco Frame [release] by daleyplanit
Nov 01, 2008 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: release (Aug 30, 2008 6:04 am)

Bigbe and others,
 
Bad news Toyota is NOT giving 100% of KBB value for 2001 and newer trucks. Mine is a 2001 and when toyota proposed a buyback i cited the higher KBB value, even faxed it to them. They didn't care me KBB value was thousands higher when the announced the problem, nor that the KBB value i found was higher. Toyota offered me THOUSANDS less than the actual KBB value. They did not come look at my truck, refused to consider the long list of options on my truck, and have beena pain in the $$ the whole way.
 
Seller beware - you will NOT get close to the KBB vlaue on your 2001 or newer truck.
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Re: Totally bummed! :( [toyotafanjo] by daleyplanit
Nov 01, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: toyotafanjo (Aug 31, 2008 6:11 pm)

Consider this.
 
your truck is worth $10,000 in february of 2008.
 
in march toyota announces the buyback.
 
resale value drops to $6,000 because no one wants to buy a dangerous truck
 
toyota buys back your truck at 150% of $6,000. you get $9,000.
 
Why are you celebrating? Toyota got your truck for $1,000 LESS than it SHOULD be worth.
 
Consier the hasle of the operation and poor customer service, too. You're getting ripped off. Toyota isn't being generous, they are prorating the value and buying you off.
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Re: 2001 Tacoma problems rusty frame [daleyplanit] by johnny66
Nov 02, 2008 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: daleyplanit (Nov 01, 2008 6:26 pm)

Thank you for the information.
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Re: 2001 Tacoma problems rusty frame [johnny66] by tcincy
Nov 02, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: johnny66 (Oct 31, 2008 5:22 pm)

Johnny66: Toyota extended the frame rust warranty for 15 (fifteen) years for any 1995-2000 Tacomas so that is still good for another year even on 1995 owners who don't have enough rust yet! In your case, I would be livid!! Make sure you put ALL of your contacts in WRITING. Don't call anymore. Have your girlfriend sign letters, in writing, to the dealer / service department that inspected her truck and said it was the worst they'd ever seen, letter to area service mgr.; letter to Toyota USA, letter to NTSB, everyone - no more phone calls - put it in writing and here is the most important part: make it a SAFETY ISSUE. Even if they won't "buy back" the truck as lthey are for 95-00 owners, they should be making some type of offer. I would make the "complaint" case you are filing a "safety" issue. Recalls are made for safety isues. This is what I was told some time ago on a separate issue by a car manufacturer. Stress that the owner's safety and that of occupants and possibly bystanders are at stake. Emphasize the dealer's observation. Get that in writing from the service guys who said that, if you can. At least you are on record in case anything occurs while you or your girlfriend are driving it. Maybe they will extend the rust buyback to 01's and later. They had to recieve a certain number of complaints on 95-00 or they wouldn't have started our program. At the very least you and your girlfriend want Toyota to address YOUR situation, either with some type of offer, repair, or recall. Good Luck
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Re: 2001 Tacoma problems rusty frame [johnny66] by tcincy
Nov 02, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: johnny66 (Nov 02, 2008 7:12 am)

With respect to daleyplanet's observation Toyota is ripping off Taco owners by offering more than "depressed" pricing, I have to disagree. I understand what he is saying - but I have no idea if the Kelly Blue Book on my Tacoma was more in Spring, 2007 than Spring, 2008. All I know is I got a deal, and was NOT even thinking about getting rid of my '99 Taco for another 3-4 years - it was a dependable workhorse.
     I leased my '99 Taco in January 1999, new, with ps,pb, a/c, bed liner, and stereo - that's it. I then bought it from Toyota when lease was up. With lease, interest, then paying cash to buy it, I had a total of $ 14,000 in it.
 
     I had 141,000 miles on it when I contacted a dealer for rust inspection.
Interior was spotless and I kept it maintained, I had little interest in selling it and was skeptical. Kelley Blue Book in July, '08 was $ 3,200.00 in average condition.
That was low for me because it was worth WAY more to me to keep it and drive it 4-5 more years.
 
    Then I saw they were offered 1.5 excellent condition.
Excellent condition was $ 5,870.00. That was about what I thought it was worth to me, but still was reluctant. buy 1.5 X that amount was $ 8,900.00. When the ISG rep verified that is what they would pay me...I thought ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
I absolutely had not any thought about selling the truck and getting anything else.
Esp. in late summer 2008's economy I was nowhere ready to buy anything new.
But $ 8,900.00 for a 10 yr. old truck with 141,000 miles on it.
 
     PLUS a $1,000 certificate good on top of any deal I made for a new Tacoma - that is $ 9,900.00 - nearly $ 10,000.00 for a truck worth between
$ 3,200 - $ 6,000.00!!!
 
    I had no prior intention of getting anything else but I couldn't pass up this opportunity.
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1995-2000 Toyota Frame Rust Buy-Back Program by david311
Nov 02, 2008 (2:15 pm)
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Hey folks. I have a 2000 Toyota Tacoma. That has been diagnosed with the Frame rot. My question is, I bought the Truck in May. Apparently the buy back started in March, so I bought it after the buy back was already in effect......Will I have any problems with the buy back then? I know they insisted on me getting a Bill of Sale from the person that I bought the truck off of! Any information would help. Just would like a heads up on how it will go....Thanks. Dave
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Re: 1995-2000 Toyota Frame Rust Buy-Back Program [david311] by tcincy
Nov 02, 2008 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: david311 (Nov 02, 2008 2:15 pm)

Dave, I have seen on here and heard that they will not honor the 1.5 Kelley Blue book Excellent condition buyback for any Tacomas purchased after they announced the program. I have heard they will buy back the Taco for the same amount you paid for it. They apparently didn't want people buying them up and "flipping" them over for the 1.5 KBB program, but they will pay the money back you paid provided the frame rust qualifies under the program.
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Re: 1995-2000 Toyota Frame Rust Buy-Back Program [tcincy] by david311
Nov 02, 2008 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: tcincy (Nov 02, 2008 4:26 pm)

Honestly ...I like my Taco.....and if they don't honor the 1.5 buy back...I think I will ask them to replace my frame....after all there is a warranty on it....See what they have to say about that? When I asked the previous owner if they had received the letter about the program in the mail....they said no. Or they would have gotten the money for it. Maybe Toyota's way of saving some money on the buy back?

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