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#346 of 925 Re: New Tacoma $ [cal4] by tylorkitty Jul 16, 2008 (8:13 am)
Replying to: cal4 (Jul 16, 2008 8:00 am) I am terrible at these things, so if the online MSRP is 27k, what are you saying the actual haggle them down too? Replies to this message: cal4 (Jul 17, 2008 7:00 am)
#347 of 925 Re: New Tacoma $ [cal4] by heywood1 Jul 16, 2008 (9:28 am)
Replying to: cal4 (Jul 16, 2008 8:00 am) I'm not sure the dealer was getting (full) holdback since it wasn't on the lot.   Also, '08's with rebate seem to be disappearing quickly, due to plenty of frame issue buyers and the big price increase of '09's-- which are already on dealer lots with nothing new except some color changes. There were only a handful of '08's left of the color and model I wanted in Central Atlantic region.
#348 of 925 Re: 08 Tacoma hard to find and 09' are now 5% more $$$$ [tylorkitty] by schukanuoslady Jul 16, 2008 (3:57 pm)
Replying to: tylorkitty (Jul 16, 2008 8:11 am) Just to let you know.... My Taco went to the dealer on May 31. I left with a loaner. As soon as I was contacted by ISG for another copy of my registration I started car shopping as I noticed all Toyotas used and new went up in price. By June 5, a week later I had an idea of how much I was going to get in my head. So I went and bought a new car. They knew about the Toyota buyback and let me give them a personal check for over 4 grand and said they would hold onto for 30 days. I got financed for the rest, got 2 grand off in manufactors rebates signed over to the dealer, plus the dealer took $1500 off the sticker price on the window. I got my check from Toyota on June 26 and it cleared overnight. I wouldn't worry too much about how long it will take to clear. The check came from Bank of America and my bank told me there was no hold on it. I got a check for $10400 for my 97 Toyota Taco. It was almost $1000 more than what I figured. And I believe my paperwork said you get the full 30 days for a rental. And another week if needed to buy a car. They are hoping you buy something from the dealer who took your truck in for inspection of course. But they offered to let me keep the loaner. I kept the loaner on purpose so as not to put a lot of miles on my new car. I figured Toyota owed me that much since I lost my truck I worked so hard to pay off as a single mom when I first bought it 11 yrs ago. The dealer than wanted to know if I wanted to check out any of their cars/trucks. I said no. And turned the loaner in. Then got to the bank before 12 noon and the next day had a bank check to take to the Hyundai dealer. I showed him my stub what Toyota paid for my 97 and he asked me if he could show it to a few guys in finance and I said sure. Hey...they let me leave with a car almost 4 weeks before that holding onto my personal check. And I figured let these salesmen have some fun seeing how Toyota is going to suffer a big loss buying back these trucks. I loved my Taco. I still miss it but I love the new Hyundai I bougtht. Lots of luck finding another Toyota truck if that is what you are going for. My advice is do what I did. I paid for a month of carfax and ran vin numbers on used vehicles for a week before I decided when I saw what I could get that Hyundai for not to buy used. But that month of carfax helped me not make 2 big mistakes on some chevys that I thought were a good deal. It was worth $30 for an unlimited month.
#349 of 925 Re: New Tacoma $ [tylorkitty] by cal4 Jul 17, 2008 (7:00 am)
Replying to: tylorkitty (Jul 16, 2008 8:13 am) If the dealer invoice is $24,725 and they mark up 9.2%, for the window sticker, it would make the MSRP $27,000.
#350 of 925 FLUNKED by divwid Jul 18, 2008 (7:17 am)
Dear Taco Owners--Had my Taco into dealership here in S. Ontario. 2000 Taco-65,000 miles, 96,000 kms.--8 years old. They said that there is "one small hole" in frame" and they would not pass it. They rummaged thru glove compartment, photocopied ownership and insurance info., took photos all around it. Then with this file together came to me in waiting room with the news. Suggested I leave truck there now. Told them no. Needed time to look into situation further and drove Taco home. Found local buyer for good tires on truck. Have local mechanic "doublechecking frame." Info. sent to Toyota Canada. Letter with money offer in 2 weeks. So far no call from insurance company. Would I be covered in an accident with this truck in the next year if I refuse the offer?? Offer should be about 15,000-16,000 Canadian. Paid 19,000 + taxes=22,000 5 years ago--Canadian dollars. Considering a basic Corolla (auto.)- approx. 16,000 Cndn. dollars. Should I refuse offer over this "one small hole"?? Please, Somebody, ANYBODY--what should I do when offer comes?? Lady Taco Owner in S. Ontario Replies to this message: schukanuoslady (Jul 18, 2008 11:34 am) cal4 (Jul 18, 2008 11:43 am) schukanuoslady (Jul 18, 2008 12:05 pm) cal4 (Jul 21, 2008 8:00 am)
#351 of 925 Re: FLUNKED [divwid] by schukanuoslady Jul 18, 2008 (11:34 am)
Replying to: divwid (Jul 18, 2008 7:17 am) I would take it at the price goes down each year. And that small hole is just the beginning of what is going to come. I was also told that Albany NY is going to be notified of who keeps their Tacos and don't turn them in to Toyota and that NY will not do an inspection on them if they get the vin#. There is a reason they want to buy it from you for that "small" hole. Its just the start. Don't forget that small hole came from rust probably and rust is like cancer, it spreads. Would you rather have a bigger amount of money this year or less money next year? I hated getting rid of my 1997, but they showed us where the hole was. And my husband being the driver of an 18 wheeler had already noticec what was going on with my Taco last year and paid to have the rust sandblasted off and repainted to help. Plus my truck had been undercoated for salt when I bought it. And it still got a hole. Just remember the insurance companines are starting to find out too when trucks are being removed from their policies. You might not be able to insure your truck come your next renewal.
#352 of 925 Re: FLUNKED [divwid] by cal4 Jul 18, 2008 (11:43 am)
Replying to: divwid (Jul 18, 2008 7:17 am) My insurance agent, flat out told me, that once I was told the frame was defective/unsafe, they would not insure me if something happened because of the frame.   The ISG people, handleing the buy back, use the kelly blue book like a bible. You can reject their offer, wait for toyota corporate to call you and try to reason with them. I was told by toyota, that the manufacture added options not listed on KBB, I just have to eat and not get any credit for.   I have been getting some real hard ass talk from the local dealer and toyota corporate that I WILL sign off (take all liabillity off Toyota) on my truck if I keep the truck. If I don't are they going to send some one to my house to rough me up? Between toyota corporate and the local rep, I have been lied to so much my head is spinning. Replies to this message: schukanuoslady (Jul 18, 2008 12:05 pm) cal4 (Jul 21, 2008 8:00 am)
#353 of 925 Re: FLUNKED [cal4] by schukanuoslady Jul 18, 2008 (12:05 pm)
Replying to: cal4 (Jul 18, 2008 11:43 am) Ok... I know what you are going thru. I was really stressed out over this with my truck. When they told me they found a hole I sat there and started crying. And they had to nerve to tell me ..so what..its only a vehicle. That was MY vehicle that I busted my butt off as a single mom to pay off. And kept it up so good that it had almost all original parts. With 131,000 mile on it I only replaced the radiator, water pump and 2 oxygen sensors up to the exhaust manifold and belts done 3 weeks before toyota took my truck.   But if you have an accident because of the frame, and you don't have liability and its your fault you are going to be sued if someone gets hurt.   Now, look at me.... go see what I have been posting the last few weeks. I lost my truck which I trusted my life with. Go check out the Hyundai Elantra forum posts I have been posting.   I hate it Toyota took my truck and now I have more stress to deal with. I would do it all over again though as I have seen some of the trucks that were a yr older than mine loading onto the 18 wheelers to get taken away. And they were 96's and 95's. I had a 97.   And Toyota would not give us any of the money back we paid for repairs in April because I didn't get a letter in March like other people did and also, they wouldn't pay us for the rust we took care of.   And I complained and for a week was pestered by Toyota to turn the truck over. Yes, they probbaly can make life miserble for you and if you don't carry insurance here in the US its against the law not to have liability insurance. You can drive with no colllision and pay yourself for damage but you can lose your DL if you don't carry basic liability if you should cause an accident. Please do look up my postings on the Hyundai board too.   And then remember.... I was stressed over my truck, now I am double stressed. My husband was almost killed 3 weeks ago because of a manufacturer defect and the car he was driving is the same kind I am driving. I bought it with my money from Toyota and he liked it so much he went and bought one. And was almost killed. And I am driving a time bomb right now waiting for the same thing to happen to me and there is nothing I can do till it happens. Replies to this message: cal4 (Jul 21, 2008 8:00 am)
#354 of 925 Re: 08 Tacoma hard to find and 09' are now 5% more $$$$ [tylorkitty] by cgranberg Jul 18, 2008 (6:49 pm)
Replying to: tylorkitty (Jul 16, 2008 8:11 am) funny, we were specifically told once we sign the check the rental has to be turned in. Good luck to you. It has been nothing but a pain for us too.
#355 of 925 one toyota per customer ? by cass6 Jul 18, 2008 (8:35 pm)
has anyone had more than one Toyota in the buyback program.. our 98 failed,everything went smooth, we purchased a used 99 and it failed also, our claim was turmed over to Toyota corp, after 3 weeks, all we have been told is that any toyota bought after March does not qualify for the buyback program.. how can they do this>? anyone know of a similar situation? Replies to this message: heywood1 (Jul 19, 2008 5:35 am) cass6 (Jul 19, 2008 6:35 pm) schukanuoslady (Jul 20, 2008 5:13 pm) and 2 more...

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