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#1298 of 1369 Re: Frame replacement without having it sprayed first is painless [dyanke]
Jun 13, 2012 (9:06 am)
I also have a 2001 Tacoma dbl. cab with a rusty frame and went to my local dealer and was told that they would not help....So i called Mark at Brianbemus.com and he took my vin # and said he wound look in to the matter. He called back and said that that vin# did come back as a 2001 model but it said that the truck was built in 2000 and may fall into the "Buy back program"....It seem that my local dealer will not help....and I hope I will not have to drive all the ways to Illinois from Maine to get the problem taken care of... I am waiting to hear back from Mark, and Toyota Customer Care Center
#1299 of 1369 Frame Replacement
Jun 13, 2012 (10:49 am)
I have an 04 Taco X-cab 4wd, I am in NY state. Got a letter in late Dec 2011 and said I had until 12/31/12 to take my truck in to any NY dealer for an inspection. Took it in last week and the mechanic took me into the bay while it was on the lift and showed me a big hole in the pass side frame rail near the attachement point for the rear leaf springs. They told me I would definitely get the new frame but they have to send pictures and a report to Toyota for confirmation in order for it to be official. The mechanic also gave me the lowdown on the details. Even though the frame is rotten because of Toyotas bad metal, many other parts that are rusted will not be covered under the frame replacement deal. Some parts are covered, such as: New brake lines, New rear E-brake cable, New leaf springs, New front lower control arms and all new nuts and bolts as needed. BAD NEWS, Items not covered, Such as: 2 Front splash shields up front , Gas tank shield and any attachment straps etc. And if they happen to break off the bottom bolt of one of your front shocks inadvertently making it unusable they will charge you for a new shock. Since they immediately deemed my 2 Front Splash Shields and Gas Tank shield unusable I asked if they would give me those "at cost" since if it wasn't for Toyotas bad frame I wouldn't be needing to replace those items at this time? I got a chuckle and was told "no way" but they wouldn't charge any labor for the items since they would have to put the old ones back on if they were usable. They said I could give them a "wish list" of parts and they would price them for me so I could shop for better prices and if I purchase the parts elsewhere they would still install them at no charge(big of them). My position is that if Toyota built the veh using crappy metal for the frame and they are replacing it free then they should be replacing all the other rotted components along with it, FREE. So far I have priced the 3 splash shields and gas tank straps etc and it looks to be well over $600. plus I,ve already spent half a day just to bring the truck for inspection, I'll have to bring it back to leave for the frame replacement and another trip to pick it up when done. I think the least Toyota should do is offer the other parts at "cost". Anyone out there know of any places to get the best prices for Toyota parts? Thanks for the help. By the way I still love my Taco, its my 3rd Toyota PU, had an 87 that i had to put a wooden box on because the box rotted but not the frame, also had a 94. Bought the 04 new(a first for me) and it only has 67000 K on it and looks great on the outside. The only things I've done are the font brakes last yr and the rear muffler, other than that just oil changes every 3K.
#1300 of 1369 Re: Frame Replacement [oxi04]
Jun 14, 2012 (5:44 am)
Check with another dealer. Almost everyone who has had their frames replaced has made mention of only paying for parts that were optional or that they upgraded. Sorry, but sounds like a very lazy, uniformed mechanic.
#1301 of 1369 Re: Frame Replacement [dyanke]
Jun 14, 2012 (12:39 pm)
Just to clarify, the mechanic said the 2 front splash shields and the gas tank shield on my truck were so rotted that they would literally crumble when removed and that is true. Thats the reason I'll have to buy new ones. My front splash shield is in tatters and flaps in the wind, falling off piece by piece as I drive along. I just think they should give me these at cost since I wouldn't be replacing them if they weren't replacing the frame.
#1302 of 1369 Re: 2002 Tacoma 4x4 quad cab [dyanke]
Jun 16, 2012 (5:09 pm)
Thank you for response I'll check .
#1303 of 1369 Re: Frame Replacement [oxi04]
Jun 18, 2012 (8:19 am)
If they were that bad then it was a safety issue and the frame being replaced was coincidental. I really don't think it unreasonable to charge for the parts if they were really that bad.
My comment was more along the lines of a mechanic that just thought it easier to replace than taking their time. On mine, one or two of the cab bolts snapped. Not part of the list but the dealership is replacing.
#1304 of 1369 Re: Tacoma Frames [rustcity]
Jun 18, 2012 (11:17 am)
Any luck at all rustcity? Same happened to me because of an admitted wrong address by Toyota and the dealer.
#1305 of 1369 Update, Frame replaced: bad job
Jul 20, 2012 (5:10 am)
Had frame replaced 2 weeks ago. Wife picked it up, drove it 2 parking spots, stopped & called me. Truck has wicked vibraition at idle, worse when in gear with foot on brake, even worse when in reverse. Has terrible vibration/rumble at 1750 rpms. Front bumper is misaligned, drooping down. At the time the frame was replaced the Cat converters were replaced under warranty, now I have an exhaust leak. Strange thing is the veh tracks down the road with no problems and drives good. Sounds like crap though. Also had to replace many items underneath,(2 front splash shields, gas tank shield, rear shocks and exhaust from converters to the back of the truck). I told dealer I wanted items at cost, they quoted me full retail, told them I would purchase parts elsewhere myself and bring them. They suddenly dropped their price on parts from $1500 to $800. What a pain in the butt this is. Now have to bring veh back for fourth time to have fixed again. They told my wife it was rough because they had to reset the computer or some malarkey, said it would "smooth out". Beware people, this dealer was supposed to be good at these replacements because they do many. HA !
#1306 of 1369 Re: Update, Frame replaced: bad job [oxi04]
Jul 20, 2012 (6:19 am)
Yeah, that's a shame. Most of the replacements come back from the dealer better than new;I know mine did. My dealer replaced 15 before mine, so they were very experienced; had it done perfectly in three days. I hope they are leveling with you about the computer, don't accept any results less than what it was before the replacement. Good Luck !
#1307 of 1369 Re: Frame replacement without having it sprayed first is painless [gtalon]
Aug 01, 2012 (9:08 pm)
First off, the frames are not made by Toyota. Up until Jan 2011 they were being made by Dana corp in Stockton Ca. I worked for Dana corp for 11 years until they sold their frame division to Metalsa (which now the frames are made in Mexico) The rust issue is with the black paint (E-Coat) Toyota standards require the E-Coat to be so many microns thick. It hardly ever was. Sometimes the paint was to thick which caused a big problem with the p-nuts (nuts spot welded for various components) the thick paint made installing bolts a pain for the NUMMI plant in Fremont and Baja Ca where the trucks were being built.
We ALWAYS had paint issues. We had bare spots on frames that we were told to use a spray can of paint to "touch up" I saw frames in our yard that had rust forming on them.
Dana Corp sold out to Metalsa, and our plant here in Stockton Ca was shut down and moved to Mexico. BTW The Tundra frame are also made in Mexico!