Article Comments 2007 Audi RS4 vs. 2007 BMW M5

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Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 Audi RS 4 vs. 2007 BMW M5 - The 2007 Audi RS 4 and 2007 BMW M5 are practical four-door sedans, yet they are also dedicated high-performance machines. They are sports cars disguised as everyday transportation. (more)

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#27 of 31 Re: Nonsense [joemama3] by esf Apr 06, 2007 (8:57 pm)
Replying to: joemama3 (Apr 06, 2007 6:22 am) It also makes them understeer and creates engineering nightmares to make them handle. For quite a few vehicles, this is incorrect. As you can see, I own an A3 2.0T with DSG as my winter car. This is possibly the best-driving FWD car on the planet. It offers blistering performance for a 2.0L engine (0-60 in 6.1 seconds), due to the fabulous DSG gearbox; however, the handling is also quite linear and satisfying. If you've read any review of the A3, you would see that the author would usually be gushing about the car's superior dynamics. Another example of this is the Mini Cooper; there's no need to explain that one. Now from what I have read, Audi has done a sublime job making the 2 ton RS4 incredibly well balanced, but I guess my point is why? Why not make the car correct in the first place? You don't seem to understand that RWD cars are just simply not part of the Audi philosophy. I believe that, at least for the rest of my life, Audi won't produce a single RWD car. They are devoted to quattro; revising it, redesigning it, simply improving it. It is one of the best AWD systems on the planet, and it is what sets Audi apart. FWD bases or not, they are AWD cars, and very good ones, at that. It is also, as you implied, a laborious task to tame the RS4's nose-heavy design. Akin to the rear-engine 911, this gives Audi's engineers massive experience, and it is a great achievement to make an AWD car with the engine all the way over the front axle handle like a RWD car; obviously, it is no achievement to make a RWD car handle like a RWD car. Just to clarify, Audi did consider equipping its lineup with RWD. However, the top brass felt that it would alienate most of Audi's core buyers (in Europe especially), and it would be a costly, unprofitable project. I hold Audi in the highest esteem for what they have achieved over a meager twelve years, starting with the 1996 B5 A4. Sustainable car companies such as this can stumble, as they did, but with vigor, they pulled themselves back up. And they are better than ever. Go Audi! '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330 Replies to this message: rs4rx7 (Aug 25, 2007 10:26 am)
#28 of 31 Re: Nonsense [esf] by rs4rx7 Aug 25, 2007 (10:26 am)
Replying to: esf (Apr 06, 2007 8:57 pm) I bought a 2007 RS4 several months ago after a long time trying many different sport salons. I tried the old and new M5, M3, Z4M Coupe, S6, E55AMG and some others not even worth mentioning. Regards the M5 vs RS4, the RS4 was just a better overall package. Sure the new M5 is faster (but only slightly), but it can't match the feel of the RS4. The Audi is a much better drive, more communicative, great sounding engine, great brakes, more neutral and secure handling and a fit and finish that is way better than the BMW's. Regards the RS4 vs BMW 335. The 335 has a great engine, smooth and powerfull, but the handling with the sport package is vague. Floats and rolls too much. I was really not impressed, having owned BMW's before I was very dissapointed. I can take corners .10mph faster in the RS4 than the 335i. If you want the all around package that is truly a drivers saloon.. get the RS4.. you will not be dissapointed !
#29 of 31 Re: Nonsense [wolfsport] by atlm5 Jan 21, 2008 (6:16 pm)
Replying to: wolfsport (Apr 05, 2007 4:29 pm) Just look at the stats...the evo is very close to the rs4...it will cursh an s4...0-60 times compareable to the rs4...awd...etc...BTW...M5 rulz Replies to this message: wolfsport (Jan 21, 2008 7:04 pm) wolfsport (Jan 21, 2008 7:41 pm)
#30 of 31 Re: Nonsense [atlm5] by wolfsport Jan 21, 2008 (7:04 pm)
Replying to: atlm5 (Jan 21, 2008 6:16 pm) >>"Just look at the stats...the evo is very close to the rs4...it will cursh an s4...0-60 times compareable to the rs4...awd...etc...BTW...M5 rulz" Again, cite your source(s). As I said, I understand that the objective data marginally favors the Audi. Where are the actual comparisons/races documented? Replies to this message: wolfsport (Jan 21, 2008 7:41 pm)
#31 of 31 Re: Nonsense [wolfsport] by wolfsport Jan 21, 2008 (7:41 pm)
Replying to: wolfsport (Jan 21, 2008 7:04 pm) Here, I'll do it for you: Actually the B6 RS4 wasn't quite as competitive as the Evo, but the B7 was at least as good! Here is an RS4 Avant tearing up an Evo 8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LU5aTCHxnw&feature=related Here is a modified Evo against an RS4 on stock rubber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVARQfX9h0c