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BMW X3, SUV
#210 of 232 Re: X3 '06 acceleration problem compared with '07 model [hfigueroa]
Nov 19, 2009 (7:10 pm)
I've owned nine BMWs since 1983, and I currently have three in my garage. If you use a good dealer and/or a good independent BMW tech your running costs wont be bad at all. I have a 2004 X3 2.5 with 85,500 miles and non-scheduled maintenance has consisted of a passenger SRS sensor(warranty), one set of tires at 50,000 miles, and one set of brakes at 60,000 miles. Maintenance and repair costs over four years of ownership have averaged $56 per month- hardly a money pit. My 1995 3er has averaged $33/month since I bought it new 14 years ago- and that number includes four sets of Z-rated track tires.
#211 of 232 As for Japanese reliability...
Nov 19, 2009 (7:47 pm)
Two and one-half years ago I bought a Mazdaspeed 3 because I thought it might be fun to try some thing different. Here's my experience:
Blown LF strut at 25,000 miles. That cost me a week of instructing at Watkins Glen.
Smoking turbo at 26,000 miles. The turbo was replaced, but now Mazda claims that the smoking is actually caused by an inadequate PCV system. Five months ago they promised that a PCV revised system would be available in 90 days. Now Mazda is saying the fix won't be ready until March at the earliest.
Variable Valve Timing Actuator became noisy at 46,000 miles. Replaced per TSB.
At 51,000 miles the car is now throwing a P0401 fault code(EGR flow insufficient) on a regular basis. This repair-$600-will be on my nickel as it seems that the EGR system is not covered by either the powertrain or the 49 state emissions warranty. Oh yeah, I also suspect that the remaining three shocks are also packing it in as I'm starting to hear some loud knocks from the rear suspension.
Yep, I'm sure glad I didn't buy another BMW...
#212 of 232 Don't believe it
Nov 19, 2009 (11:16 pm)
Amazingly, no one else believes that BMWs are cheap and reliable cars to own.
I still have that bridge to sell along with brakes, rotors, head gaskets, water pumps, air conditioners and assorted dead electronics.
Delusion runs hot and heavy from time to time though.
These are mostly about the transmissions but there are some eye popping numbers on other maintenance issues as well.
#213 of 232 Here's some hard numbers
by steve_ HOST
Nov 20, 2009 (12:28 am)
Edmunds True Cost to Own tool calculates maintenance and repair costs. Here's a sampling:
Make/Style/Maintenance/Repairs (all over a 5 year period):
2009 BMW X3 xDrive30i 4dr SUV AWD (3.0L 6cyl 6M) $3,185/$2,362
2009 Acura MDX 4dr SUV AWD (3.7L 6cyl 5A) $3,886/$951
2009 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring 4dr SUV AWD (3.7L 6cyl 6A) $3,288/$724
2009 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML350 4MATIC 4dr SUV AWD (3.5L 6cyl 7A) $4,806/$2,362
Repairs run a bit higher for the BMW and the MB than the CX-0 and MDX for the small sample set I ran. The '99 Audi Q5 is $4,630/$2,794.
Pick your own "best" X3 comparison and run the numbers.
#214 of 232 X3 maintenance costs...
by kyfdx HOST
Nov 20, 2009 (5:03 am)
... are ZERO for the first 50K miles...
#215 of 232 Re: Don't believe it [pp2009pp]
Nov 20, 2009 (6:38 am)
Well, as I said, my comments are only based on 26 years of ownership experience and owning everything from a Bavaria 3.0 to an E24 M6 to an E39 528iA- and I'm providing hard numbers taken off my spreadsheet. Here are some examples of service on my X3 performed at my local dealer(Swope BMW Louisville, KY):
Change ATF and transfer case oil- $207.38
Inspection II, brake fluid flush, repair curb rash on LF wheel- $423.66
Oil Service, coolant flush- $128.00
I will note that Swope does give me a BMW CCA discount of 10% on parts and labor.
Now, I'll be the first to admit that service costs can be high if you have a questionable dealer and you simply walk in, hand over your Visa, and grab your ankles- but if you use some common sense and do some research the operating costs won't be bad at all.
#216 of 232 Re: X3 maintenance costs... [kyfdx]
Nov 20, 2009 (6:58 am)
There are exclusions to what is covered, tires being one of them. I believe the battery isn't covered as well? So it really should be thought of as "Almost $0 for the first $50k miles."
Nov 20, 2009 (10:28 am)
A bit OT, but what do you know about Enthusiast Auto over on Reading Road?
#218 of 232 Re: X3 maintenance costs... [kyfdx]
by steve_ HOST
Nov 20, 2009 (11:58 am)
Tell it to Edmunds.
Year four is the killer.
#219 of 232 Re: Here's some hard numbers [steve_]
Nov 20, 2009 (12:07 pm)
Do you add the two numbers together? Since the X3 has a 4 year maintenance/warranty the $5,548 number is just for year number five or is this 'as if' you paid for all the maintenance and warranty.
What is up with the Q5. I hear you can prepay for maintenance and save a bit.
Do you know where the raw data comes from?