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Acura TL vs Lincoln MKZ

36 messages,  Last post on Mar 16, 2007 at 6:06 PM

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What is this discussion about? Acura TL, Lincoln MKZ, Sedan


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#17 of 36
car quality by 06zephyr
Mar 06, 2007 (4:32 am)
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The quality gap between American and foreign cars is certainly narrowing. Do you any of you read the various forums of the cars you tout so highly. They all have the same issues whether it be Acura,Toyota,BMW or Mercedes. In fact Toyota had the most vehicles recalled last year of all the car manufacturers. It is now a matter of perception that the American car manufactureres have brought upon themselves. Lincoln now ranks near the top as far as quality of the vehicles is concerned, so why the constant bashing.
  Trade in value after 5 or 6 years and 100k miles should be of little or no concern when looking for a vehicle. It is all what you are comfortable in and what you feel is the best value for your dollar. If you really want to get into it read the various forums of the cars you are interested in and then make a somewhat educated decision. Dont go by the word of mouth of others.
#18 of 36
Well... by pat HOST
Mar 06, 2007 (5:01 am)
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Here we are comparing the TL to the MKZ. Let's try to stick to the topic and leave the broader American and foreign debates to the appropriate discussions on the Automotive News & Views board.
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Re: TL vs. MKZ [heyjewel] by bigt
Mar 06, 2007 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: heyjewel (Mar 05, 2007 10:24 am)

I owned the Zephyr and purchased the MKZ and love it! I especially love the fact that I purchased every option they have and still spent only 35k for it. It rides great, quiet, THX sound, touch screen Navigation system, power moonroof, chrome wheels, etc. The AWD has been great so far this winter. No issues, no noises, no complaints either car. So the Zephyr to a friend it is the best car they have had also. So I would recommend the MKZ over the Acura.
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Re: TL vs. MKZ [leadfoot6] by tiger16
Mar 08, 2007 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: goodegg (Mar 05, 2007 1:05 pm)

The only comparison is that they both have 4 wheels and 4 doors? The Lincoln is more like a nice taxi? These comments are absolutely ridiculous and obviously written by someone that, in some capacity, gets a paycheck from Acura. I doubt he has even driven a Zephyr. If you hate the car so much, why are you driving your Aunt's car, and as you say, a lot?
I own an 06 Zephyr and as everyone can attest, I have been extremely critical of Ford's blunders and there are some flaws with the Zephyr/MKZ. However, it is still a nice car and excellent value for money. I have over 24,000 miles on mine and it has NEVER been in the shop for any repairs. Also, this thing is rock solid at high speed (I travel I-95 everyday and have no complaints with handling).
Criticism here is welcome. But, let's keep it intelligent criticism. Otherwise, you have no credibility. This post by Leadfoot is pure dribble.
#24 of 36
Why I would buy an MKZ over a TL by displacedtexan
Mar 08, 2007 (2:35 pm)
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Choices. I really dislike the "buy everything or nothing" packaging Acura offers (or did 3 years ago when I bought my LS). At least with the MKZ I can configure it the way I want. Maybe I don't want a moonroof? No choice in the TL. With the MKZ I can leave that off the list.
 
Frankly, the interior design of the TL turns me off, as I've expressed elsewhere around here. I just think it's trying too hard and looks too neon. Too many surfaces and materials not blending in a way aesthetically pleasing to me. Since I sit in the car and have to look at it, how I respond to the interior design is important to me. The dash layout obviously is designed with the nav system as priority, at the expense of placing the radio controls too low on the dash. Another dislike of mine about Acura products. I happen to like the MKZ's dash design and layout.
 
As for the ride, I thought the TL's ride too harsh, too, and this coming from someone who used to drive a Volvo. The ride in the TL did not strike a good balance between road feel and smoothness. To me it felt jittery and unsettled.
 
I also will not patronize our local Acura dealer. Very snotty.
 
One big point in the TL's favor, though, is that it's made in the USA, not across the border. That is a huge point in its favor.
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Re: Why I would buy an MKZ over a TL [displacedtexan] by ggesq
Mar 08, 2007 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Mar 08, 2007 2:35 pm)

"The dash layout obviously is designed with the nav system as priority, at the expense of placing the radio controls too low on the dash."
 
Interesting. The way the interior of the MKZ is the same way except the radio controls are up top and the A/C buttons are on the bottom.
I guess you prefer the radio controls higher and the A/C controls lower?
 
On the TL, you can control the radio from the Nav screen. Additionally, certain functions (like the radio and A/C) can be controlled via Voice Recognition even if you don't have the Navi.
 
As for the "harsh" ride- chalk that up to the TL being a sporty sedan and the MKZ being more of a luxo cruiser like the ES 350.
 
IMHO, the (aging) interior design, layout, fit and finish of the TL is one of the best in the segment.
 
RE: the way Acura packages the TL. That's either a hit or miss with folks and I can see how some won't like that. I priced out a MKZ with everything but Navi and the moonroof compared to the TL w/out Navi and it is about a 2k difference in MSRP.
 
Of course, resale value between the two is a totally different story...
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Re: TL vs. MKZ [tiger16] by goodegg
Mar 08, 2007 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Mar 08, 2007 5:40 am)

Dribble? Because you like the Lincoln and I don't as much (this is a Zephyr/MKZ vs. a TL thread - period). I could assail you for your ridiculous, self-serving pro-MKZ statements.
 
I did say the Zephyr was a nice car. Am I not allowed to try her car out? I would think this DOES qualify me to state my opinion of her car vs. my TL.
 
Afraid of the competition? Apparently.

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