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Honda Civic Cooling Problems

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Honda Cooling Problems by rrumba
Mar 03, 2007 (8:35 pm)
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My son has a 91 honda civic. He hit a possum and cracked the bottom of the radiator. We replaced the radiator, the water pump went out. We replaced the water pump, and the themostat at the same time. Now the problem is that it still overheats. When it is sitting idle and the temperature is in normal operating range, the water is contsantly boiling out. We have bled the system as directed but no luck. When you step on the gas peddle the water will shoot out of the radiator with the cap off. The top hose is hot, the bottom is cool but does not feel like there is any pressure. If taken for a test drive the temp is fine for a while but then it climbs up as you accelerate, let off the gas and the temp comes down. The 2 fans are working. Any suggestions. I will be doing a compression test tomorrow just in case to check the head gasket. There is also white smoke coming out of the tailpipe.
 
Any help PLEASE.
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Re: Honda Cooling Problems [rrumba] by wsustudent
Mar 04, 2007 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: rrumba (Mar 03, 2007 8:35 pm)

It sounds to me like you might have a blown head gasket. I just faced the same thing on my 2003 Civic. Since the car is overheating and you have essentially changed out everything in the cooling system that is what I would suspect.
 
If that is the problem, the reason the water is boiling out is because due to the head gasket blown, coolant is seeping into the cylinders and that is getting burned off through the exhaust, but in return as the cylinders move up and down, you will get air forced back into the cooling system as a result of the cylinder movement. Since the air takes up volume as well, and since you're probably not making even trade with coolant/air in the head, the coolant has no where to go and will come out of the overflow bottle. That is what happened with my situation. I would get overheating as well. Also I don't know where you live and if you use the heat at all right now, but I was losing that as well since there was so much air in the system it was getting trapped in the heater core.
 
After typing all this and reading your message again I didn't notice you mentioned white smoke. Classic sign of a blown head gasket.
 
Good luck!
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Re: Honda Cooling Problems [wsustudent] by rrumba
Mar 04, 2007 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: wsustudent (Mar 04, 2007 2:13 pm)

Yeah, thats what I was thinking as well. My son confirmed it for me when I went out and he had replaced the thermostat again had it running for a while and shut it down thinking he fixed the problem. When I went outside he started it to show me and I could not stop him in time, when all of a sudden a rather loud noise, like a train steam whistle sounded and a big plume of white smoke came barreling out of the exhaust. Told him then to shut it down he was done. Looked at the oil cap and dipstick, sure enough coffe with creamer added to it colored oil. Now comes the fun part of a head/valve job.
 
Thanks for your help. Not sure if I should have the head machined or not. any thoughts?
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Re: Honda Cooling Problems [rrumba] by wsustudent
Mar 05, 2007 (3:54 am)
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Replying to: rrumba (Mar 04, 2007 8:16 pm)

I think the only way you'll really know if you need the head machined or not is to put a straight line on it and see if any warping occured as a result of the overheating. The shop did that with mine and determined the head did NOT need to be machined. Ask your son how much he let it overheat while driving. If he kept it within the normal zone and didn't continue to drive it when the gauge pegged itself, then you should be OK. I asked the guy at the shop if the head being warped out of the factory might be cause for my gasket to fail but he stated that it was just simple deterioration was the cause for the failure.
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Re: Honda Cooling Problems [wsustudent] by rrumba
Mar 05, 2007 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: wsustudent (Mar 05, 2007 3:54 am)

He shut it down as soon as it hit the red and starting shutting itself down. Well once I have the head off i will check with the straight edge to ensure, or just take it to a machine shop. The drama, gotta love the drama.
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Honda Civic 2003 v-tech - Overheated Warped Head by newtonj1
Mar 15, 2007 (1:42 pm)
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My daughter overheated her 2003 Honda Civic and I had the head thoroughly rebuilt. Now that I am basically finished replacingthe head / completing the job a honda dealer tells me that if you overheat a civic and pull the head the piston rings will collaspe and the car will start burning oil in appx 2000 miles. Any thoughts from anybody out there. The car has 40000 miles on it. Overheating due to a messed up radiator throat. Water boiling out through overflow.
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Re: Honda Civic 2003 v-tech - Overheated Warped Head [newtonj1] by aaronr121
Mar 16, 2007 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: newtonj1 (Mar 15, 2007 1:42 pm)

It is totally possible. Could you luck out and put it back together and not have a problem? Sure. Nothing you can really do is drive it and see what happens.
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Re: Honda Civic 2003 v-tech - Overheated Warped Head [aaronr121] by kevindnb
Aug 13, 2007 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: aaronr121 (Mar 16, 2007 5:04 am)

First time posting here. I know barely anything about cars.
 
Anyways, I have a 95 Civic EX, 1.6. I drove from my buddies house back home which is a about a 3 hour drive, was pushing the car kinda hard. When I got off the freeway and finally stopped the temp gauge went into the red zone. White smoke/steam started was coming out of the hood. Pulled over, turned the car off, popped the hood and the fluid in the reservoir was extremely hot..bubbling and pouring out. This guy helped me out, took off the radiator cap, a white/brownish foam was pouring out of the reservoir/radiator. When we pressed down on the throttle, the liquid would fly out of the radiator, when the cap was off. Not sure if this is normal. He ended up pouring buckets and buckets of water till the foamy crap coming out of the radiator was mostly watery looking...white/clear foam. Pretty sure the radiator fan doesn't turn on anymore. I'll have to check on that tomorrow. I bought a thermostat, bought antifreeze, just trying to figure out where I should start since I really don't have much money to work with. One more thing, might be a completely different thing, but the car idles really weird now, mainly idles at about 1000 rpm's, then jumps up to about 1500 after driving on the freeway for a bit.
 
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Re: Honda Civic 2003 v-tech - Overheated Warped Head [kevindnb] by targettuning
Aug 14, 2007 (4:16 am)
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Replying to: kevindnb (Aug 13, 2007 7:39 pm)

I would start with the electric cooling fan and the temperature sensor that turns it (the fan) on at the upper end of its temp.limit. From what I can surmise the car was normal while you were driving along but only overheated when stopped...correct? In cases like that the coolant is no longer cooled mostly by airflow through the radiator. When you stop the temperature spikes and the thermostatically controlled electric cooling fan starts...and runs until temps. are brought below the lower limit of the sensor that controls on/off of that fan. So, you may have answered your own question when you state you don't think the fan turns on any longer. I don't think so either.
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fan cooling by sancho3
Dec 09, 2008 (7:02 pm)
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i have a honda civic dx 96, and my is problem that the fan cooling doesn´t want to work, i already change the thermostat, and temperature sensor, because i though those were the problem, but not. i send u this messages to know what is the problem, could u help me out with this problem?

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