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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 23, 2007 10:31 am) Sorry IIRC the new 2008 Smart available in Canada will be gas powered. And FWIW the Smart Canadian site states somewhere in the area of a little over 40 city and almost 50 highway. |
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Nov 27, 2007 8:09 am) Corolla: 28/37 Yaris: 29/36 Matrix 26/33 Civic Coupe: 26/34 Fit 28/34 Versa 26/31 Those are from manu sites that say it is an 08 mpg number, or from www.fueleconomy.gov that 'imply' it is an 08 number (can't tell for 100% sure). So - yes - 33/40 is better, but for having 'not a car' I want better than that small bump. The diesel is a great example of what the form factor can do. I still claim if they really focused on it, they could do much better from gas or a gas/hybrid. To me, the smart comes real close to being more similar to the Gem E6 than to any of the cars listed above... To go to such a form factor, it better seriously deliver mpg for what I am giving up! And note - that isn't meant as a slight, I seriously consider buying a Gem every 3 to 4 months... The main difference (of course) is range, 40 miles only on Gem - on - and being able to drive of freeways/expressways. Overall, however, I like the idea that it might be a conservative number and we just have to wait and see what the 2008 EPA number is for comparison purposes. I recommend that Smart have the test taken even if for some reason they don't have to so we will know what the comparo number is!! |
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Replying to: lightminer (Nov 30, 2007 2:45 pm) Again, the main thing working against the smart is the slow shifting of that automatic clutch manual. But I suspect most people won't even notice the shifts after they drive it awhile. |
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Uh Oh! I see no mention of a spare tire. Only the repair kit. that could be a deal breaker. Please provide insight regarding spare tire or lack of. Thanks, Sam in Anderson, SC |
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Replying to: sbonhartwell (Dec 11, 2007 2:17 pm) Funny what different things are deal breakers for different folks. Years ago, I used to change my own tires. Don't do that now. If there is a flat (I sometimes haven't gotten one for many years) the road service takes care of it. Good enough for me, but that may not be so for you.
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Dec 11, 2007 5:31 pm) Although I don't expect to be on trips with this car, there will be times when I go around 200 miles or so from home and having a flat would not be something I look forward to, particularly in the rain,at night, etc. Fixing a flat with the little kit would not be a big problem but one would certainly have to carry around a tire inflater ,12 volts or a regular bike pump. The real problem would be if one would have a blow out where it could not be fixed. Now that would be the pits late at night or on the road. I would think that for a spare, the size difference would be ok for a short period since both sizes are 15". I don't even pull my boat trailer without having a spare with me. I see too many folks who have trailer flats and no spare. I sure am going to give this spare tire business some more thought. I am sorry I thought of that. Thanks for the response. |
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Dec 11, 2007 5:31 pm) |
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It does come with a can of fix-a-flat, and there are small air pumps that run off the power socket. If that still bothers you, you could buy a spare tire (or two, since the front and rears are different sizes) and stow them behind the seats if you don't need to put the seats back very far. As far as I know, the tires aren't LRR. That would help the mileage, but would also make the handling more skittish. |
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 12, 2007 6:31 am) I want to view the space before deciding to see if I could get a spare tire in it and still have a little room. Of course, I have a few months to decide. Sam
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Replying to: sbonhartwell (Dec 12, 2007 6:43 am) I do hear that the transmission shifting has been much improved. That should help.
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