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Re: small [kneisl1] by priggly
Jun 25, 2009 (9:03 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 25, 2009 3:44 am)

That's a load of crap. There is no shortage of natural resources except in the minds of AlGoreites. Are you one of these?
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Stick to the smart please by pf_flyer HOST
Jun 26, 2009 (2:41 am)
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Let's not veer off into other stuff. Thanks
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prig by kneisl1
Jun 26, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Maybe not but gas sure gets EXPENSIVE!
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Re: small [priggly] by gregg_vw
Jun 26, 2009 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: priggly (Jun 25, 2009 9:03 pm)

Priggly, I have no idea, other than what I read, what quantity of oil is left. But that is beside the point, as perception is much more influencial than reality. The fact that oil has bounced up over $70, when there is no shortage of supply at the moment and demand is down for the foreseeable future, is proof enough of that.
 
And what is a load of crap? That I rode in a station wagon without a car seat as a kid? As for natural resources, there is a finite supply regardless of how much remains. You and I may think we do not have to worry about it--unless we care about the generations coming after us who may not have the same opportunities to lift energy easily from the earth--but everything does eventually run out, including the sun. Planning ahead for tighter supplies is not insane. But more to the point, when people fear something is growing more scarce, no amount of reassurance is going to convince them otherwise.
 
Finally, be nice. This isn't war here.
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High perf. engine in SmartCar?? by johnxyz
Jul 02, 2009 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: stout7735 (Jun 22, 2009 12:34 pm)

"However, your Yaris does not have a high performance engine..."
 
I like the high-tech fabrication of the SmartCar (vs. Yaris) but was disappointed to learn that the US market has a very standard, if not old tech Mitsubishi engine in place of the Mercedes-sourced engine that was apparently in Gen I and/or current Euro-spec version/model? Is the diesel engine in the Canadian-market Smart a Mercedes?
 
Now if they put in a truly high perf., latest tech direct injection engine (and not necessarily from Japan) that would be worth talking about..
 
Who supplies what has been considered a rough/crude transmission, too?
 
I still think its a cool car - its just the IIHS or however did the testing whereby the Smart/Fit/Yaris got bounced like a ping-pong ball makes you take pause. Even though all of the above I still like the Smart Car better than the Fit and Yaris.
 
Any discounting off MSRP lately ( we are approaching 10% unemployment, if not already there now....)?
 
Thanks
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Re: High perf. engine in SmartCar?? [johnxyz] by stout7735
Jul 02, 2009 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: johnxyz (Jul 02, 2009 8:12 am)

70 HP from 61 non-turbo cubic inches qualifies as a high performance engine...
Transmission by Getrag, like in the Ferrari...
Even Kelly Blue book lists it in their top 10 coolest cars under $18,000 (the Yaris didn't make the list)...
Like the Rolls Royce,there is no discount off MSRP of the Smart yet...
 
 
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Re: High perf. engine in SmartCar?? [stout7735] by johnxyz
Jul 02, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: stout7735 (Jul 02, 2009 9:40 am)

Thanks stout7735 Follow-up question - someone posted that the (Getrag) tranny was designed to be abrupt between shifts -similar to a race car - precise like. I've read 10,000 complaints on the 'jerky' transmission but that was the 1st comment that might actually have explained it as an intentional design performance characteristic - can you shed any light on this transmission (non) issue?
 
So the Mitsu engine is fine - good to go?
 
Thanks again
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Re: Road Tour is starting! [lostchild] by missadams1
Jul 14, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: lostchild (May 17, 2007 9:57 am)

I am of the opinion that a Smart is the perfect car if you live in a big city. If I would have one I would use it for daily business. With this car it is definitely a lot easier to find a parking spot and additionally you have enough space in order to stow the purchase.
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Re: High perf. engine in SmartCar?? [johnxyz] by stout7735
Jul 14, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: johnxyz (Jul 02, 2009 6:03 pm)

The transmission is manual(but automated) insuring no slippage and maximum fuel economy...It feels like a manual because it is a manual....
 
The Mitsu engine is actually superior to the prior Mercedes engine used in the Smart....
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New to the discussion by jpeters1970
Jul 25, 2009 (12:48 am)
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Hi Folks. I've been seeing more and more Smart cars on the road today and that really is great. It is amazing that Americans have finally begun to use their heads and make an informed decision about saving fuel and having fun at the same time. Here in NY there is a company that cleans windows and their entire fleet of cars are Smart cars with a rack on the top holding a folded up ladder. Very cool indeed.
 
I do have a question though. Have any of you tried to use regular fuel with positive results? I can't see how this would ruin the engine since the only effect may be a small drop in performance.
 
I sat in one not too long ago. A guy I knew who owned a trucking school told me to sit in the car and I was surprised by how much room it had. I did not feel closed in at all. The best thing is the ability to park in spots that most cars would have to pass up. Great for those tight city parking spots. Lastly, fear of small cars???? Drive safely and defensively and you will have no issues. Contrary to what some people think, the Smart is a very safe car. Granted it is small, but it is designed in a way to give up its life for yours in the unlikely event of a crash. I've driven motorcycles and I have no fear of ever driving a Smart. Don't you get annoyed with people that always are pessimistic and fear the worst!! Geeeez!!! Go out and enjoy the ride. Get the convertible!!!!!

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