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Re: [dstrom]
by vector2
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Feb 20, 2009 (11:09 pm)
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Replying to: dstrom (Feb 16, 2009 5:13 am)
I live 300 miles from my nearest dealer. Took delivery 225 days ago and haven't yet had reason to return to the dealer.
I would add to your list of sites though. My favorite hangout is
www.smartcarofamerica.com
Better than all the rest, IMO.
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Re: 40MPG [Patrick11MB]
by vector2
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Feb 20, 2009 (11:13 pm)
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Replying to: Patrick11MB (Feb 20, 2009 5:17 am)
I am aware of people on smartcarofamerica.com who routinely exceed 40 MPG in their smarts. I personally average around 35 MPG. It's very much a matter of how you drive it, like any other car.
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Re: We have one.. [gregg_vw]
by vector2
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Feb 20, 2009 (11:18 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Dec 11, 2008 1:46 pm)
Mine does fine at highway speed. In fact, it seems to me to be less skittish above 65 MPH. But, the question was, how they handle a stiff crosswind.
smarts are high profile vehicles, taller than the average sedan. And, at around 1800 pounds, not all that massive. Yes, they do get blown around quite noticeably by crosswinds. But, I've never been blown out of my lane.
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- #417 of 491
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Re: We have one.. [vector2]
by redfred1
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Feb 28, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: vector2 (Feb 20, 2009 11:18 pm)
We live in Austin and it is very windy here on many occasions. I have never felt the cross-wind impact on our SMART car anymore than on our van or my Civic. As far as highway speeds it does very nicely during acceleration onto the freeway and at the posted speed limit(70 mph). I generally drive around 75 or 80 with room to spare so you should feel confident that it can "keep up". BTW, it is limited to 90 mph (tried and found it stops there) so if you want to do more than that you need to look elsewhere unless a "chip" is out soon.
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- #418 of 491
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Re: We have one.. [redfred1]
by dunepearl
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Mar 01, 2009 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: redfred1 (Feb 28, 2009 4:58 pm)
Well that surprises me. Living in Florida, I opted to sell my fortwo after two weeks as it was all over the road at speeds over 60 mph. I owned one of the early models and had waited 8 months from reservation time. My advice would be to find one for sale in your area and DEFINITELY take it for a test drive on a highway before you purchase one. 
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- #419 of 491
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Re: We have one.. [dunepearl]
by dstrom
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Mar 01, 2009 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: dunepearl (Mar 01, 2009 5:09 am)
With its wheels out at the corners of the car, its standard Electronic Stability Control (ESC), its "negative camber" wheel alignment, "stiff" suspension, excellent tires, etc., I think you'll find that the smart is as stable on the highway (and as safe) as any other compact car. Based on my experience (11 months and 10,500 miles) I found that when I first got my smart (first 4 to 6 weeks) I was nervous and apprehensive and expected my smart to be all over the road and blown around by the least crosswind, This cause me to oversteer, overcorrect, overreact, and see problems that just weren't there. Once I finally relaxed and just drove the car like I did my others I found it to be as stable as any and less susceptible to crosswinds than my Honda Ridgeline pickup truck. In other words, my initial "stability problem" was me and my perception, not a problem with the vehicle.
If you take a test drive looking for a "stability problem," you'll probably find one. If you talk with most everyone who's driven a smart for more than 2,500 miles/3 months, you'll probable find there's "no problem."
Enjoy
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Re: We have one.. [dunepearl]
by dennismau
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Mar 01, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: dunepearl (Mar 01, 2009 5:09 am)
That is baloney! You obviously don't know how to drive! I have had my Smart Car for a year know and I have put 10K miles on it driving at high speeds on the highway everyday going to work. I regulary get it up to 80 and 90 mph and it is rock solid stable. In fact it is surprising how stabile it is for as small as it is.It also has a big advantage moving through traffic because of it's small size. You can find holes in traffic and cut through them like you can with a motorcycle(I ride a motorcycle also). It makes me giggle every time I pass a BMW or some high power sports car. I have a long hill on the highway coming home and most of the time I pass all the big heavy SUV's with my little light (1800#) 70 hp Smart car because it has a power to weight advantage. Also, I have not had one problem with it and even with the regular factory tires, ASB, traction control, and ABS brakes it does quite good in the snow here in Denver,CO.The heater and defroster also performed fine in the minus 20 degree weather we had. I regulary get 43-45 MPG going back and forth to work also which is part highway and part city driving. It is the best commuter car and one of the best cars I have ever had! I change my own oil and it has not cost me a penny so far in extra expenses. It also does not get nicks or dents on it because of the plastic body and the fact that it is narrow and cars don't door ding it when parked.I wash my car every week and let me tell you I really appreciate how easy it is to wash! Smaller is better alot of times!
Dennis
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Re: We have one.. [dunepearl]
by stout7735
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Mar 01, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: dunepearl (Mar 01, 2009 5:09 am)
The Smart short wheelbase makes it more sensitive to steering input,especially if you are used to driving very long wheelbase vehicles...If you don't want to be "all over the road" , I suggest you cut back on drinking booze when you drive... 
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Re: Why SmartCar over Toyota Corolla? [swtnlovabl]
by jack137
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Mar 18, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: swtnlovabl (Sep 02, 2008 7:18 pm)
Hi, Dean;
How did you manage to get a Euro Smart, register it, insure it and get it serviced in the USA? I've had no luck at all trying to get the Euro Smart TDI, even though it's sold in Canada!, never mind obtaining the car you got.
I'm puzzled at the Mitsu-equipped Smart's lousy mileage. The Metro got 45-50 mpg with the same engine more than 15 years ago! I pretty much lost interest in the Smart when they put the Mitsubishi in the US version and announced that low 40 mpg. Also, they STILL don't import the 800cc Diesel to America!? WHY NOT?
I've always wondered why German car companies have such bad marketing techniques. Asking so many willing American customers to wait 10 years just to get what was once a decent car (but no longer is) is truly insane. The first tiny Toyota turbo-diesel that comes to these shores gets my money.
Your reply would be appreciated.
Herb
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Re: 40MPG [snakeweasel]
by jack137
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Mar 18, 2009 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Mar 03, 2007 9:12 pm)
You may have a point there about Renault mileage. I owned a 1970 R-16 five-door hatchback that weighed in at less than 2,200 lbs. It averaged 28-33 mpg until after I installed a toilet-paper oil filter; then it jumped to 34-39 mpg. I believe this type of filter is still being sold.
By the way, When I traded this car for an R-5 in 1976, the fellow who bought my R-16 (with 137,00 on the clock) as spare parts for HIS 1970 R-16 got back to me and said that the engine was so good, that he'd made his car the spare-parts donor instead. Apparently, toilet paper oil-filters do an engine a lot of long-term good in addition to greatly improving gas mileage.
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