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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 10, 2008 3:58 am) The problem that they have is that they unfairly bias their results not based upon actual testing but they give it a massive penalty because of weight. They obviously have an axe to grind, because no other site out there uses such a screwed up criteria - at least not that's weighted to the point of overpowering all other concerns. *** (a) frontal impact fatality risk points (average vehicle = 38, including vehicle weight influence) Net score: 94.3. So while it actually appears to have scored closer to the average for most cars - about a 35-40 rating, they inflate this by a whopping *50* points because in their minds, it's too light. No scientific data, mind you... just too light. They also hugely inflate the rollover risk as well, since the entire cabin was specifically designed to act as a roll cage. Mercedes assumed that it would likely roll over in a crash and factored that into the design. But what would the IIHS and ENCAP know about cars compared to informedforlife ? They give the 2009 MIni Cooper a 53.4 - worse than the Yaris, despite getting virtually identical scores on crash tests AND weighing more. The data isn't jiving with reality. Yaris - 2377lbs - 37.6 Mini - 2491lbs - 53.5 NHTSA front risk rating is exactly the same for both cars at 13%. So why the inflation? I smell B.S. here. Doubly so when you compare this: Yaris 3 door - 2317lbs - 54.5 NHTSA 10% 5/4 stars Yaris 4 door - 2377lbs - 37.6 NHTSA 13% 4/4 stars Que? Gets better scores and yet gets that many more points for front impact risk?  
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I neglected to order power steering which is an option.Has anyone driven a smart with no power steering, howdoes it handle?
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Replying to: rdrygg (Oct 20, 2008 1:47 pm) |
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Replying to: rdrygg (Oct 20, 2008 1:47 pm) Dennis
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Replying to: dennismau (Oct 20, 2008 2:29 pm) |
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Replying to: mmm1 (Jul 16, 2008 8:31 am) An alternative is to have the smart wrapped. 
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I reserved my smart in February, 2008 in Dallas, TX and was told that I could expect delivery in 9 to 10 months. That means I should have expected to have it by December 2008. However, the delivery date estimator shows a delvery date of October to December of 2009, a full year later that I was told. I've questioned smartusa and my salesperson about how a 10 month wait turned in to a 22 month wait and I'm basically told "that's the way it is." I'm very frustrated and on the verge of cancelling and buying a Yaris. Is anyone else experiencing an extreme delay in the delivery of their smart? I really wanted this as a daily driver, but a nearly two year wait is unreasonable. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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Replying to: highrise (Nov 04, 2008 9:01 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Nov 04, 2008 10:30 am) Of course, in my area, there always seems to be a "fad" component to sales of quirky vehicles. The new Beetle, PT Cruiser, and smart, to name a few, all are bought and VERY visible right away then the newness wears off or some new and unusual vehicle comes along. There WERE about 7 smarts that I was seeing around town during the summer, but I hadn't seen one on the road since early Sept until yesterday. |
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The dealer doesn't have any on display because they are all SOLD! The Smart car is not a fad it is the future. 800,000 sold in Europe shows thay are not a fad! Dennis |
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