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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [priggly]
by scwmcan
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Sep 08, 2008 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: priggly (Sep 07, 2008 4:11 pm)
I think it is the other variables that may take this from a scientific conclusion to an opinion of one group (or individual) they have no tests of their own they just arbitrarily pick a percentage to weigh the data by, generally putting a lot of emphasis on weight and other variables besides the crash test data. For example there is no reason for the 2007 and 2008 smart for two to have different results, they are exactly the same car. In any case I understand that you put a lot of faith on this data and that is fine, you have stated your position and I think everyone gets that you and this organization think that the smart is the most unsafe car on the road, fine, now move on, others have differing criteria when purchasing their car, let them decide for themselves if this data is relevant to their decision or not, and please stop posting the same thing time and time again.
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Where can I buy a Smart Car?
by fireant7141
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Oct 02, 2008 (10:21 am)
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I'am in IN. and I can't seem to find a Dealer. Can anyone help me?
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [fireant7141]
by snakeweasel
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Oct 02, 2008 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: fireant7141 (Oct 02, 2008 10:21 am)
Where in IN? I know of two in the Chicago area but it will be a ride even if your are in NW IN.
Go to the Smart website they have a dealer locator. Just remember that these cars are being sold only in larger metro areas so if your out in the country you may have a drive to find a dealer.
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [fireant7141]
by priggly
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Oct 06, 2008 (9:48 pm)
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Replying to: fireant7141 (Oct 02, 2008 10:21 am)
There is all of one (1) dealer in Indiana, in Indianapolis!
http://www.smartusa.com/smart-usa-find-a-dealer.aspx
OTOH, Chevy has 129 dealers in Indiana, more than "Smart" has in the entire country! Get yourself an Aveo which is safer, faster and better in every way. Besides, it's a REAL car!
http://www.internetautoguide.com/car-dealers/19-int/chevrolet/indiana/index.html- -
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [priggly]
by dennismau
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Oct 07, 2008 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Oct 06, 2008 9:48 pm)
An Aveo is the biggest piece of junk that was ever made! I have a Smart for Two and I get 43-45 mpg every week going back and forth to work and let me tell you it is a WONDERFUL car! Best car I ever had! Joy to drive and park and I have not had one problem with it. If you do not have a Smart for Two don't knock them you do not know what you are talking about.
Dennis
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [priggly]
by gregg_vw
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Oct 07, 2008 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Oct 06, 2008 9:48 pm)
Excuse me, but there you go again. Why you monitor this site is beyond me. You the caped crusader??  the Aveo is not safer than the smart. The Aveo is an old Daewoo design. It should have at least been offered with side airbags as optional. It does not have good crash ratings.
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [gregg_vw]
by priggly
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Oct 09, 2008 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Oct 07, 2008 4:59 am)
The Aveo IS safer than the Smart according to the authority informedforlife.org. The Aveo has a lower score (lower is better) than the Smart although I see the Smart score has risen over time. However, I still doubt it will ever be anything but a death trap, in my opinion. Furthermore, when the novelty factor wears off it will likely go the way of the Yugo or Lada. Why anyone would prefer it to a, say, Chevy Aveo or Honda Fit or Nissan Versa or similar real car, is simply beyond me.
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [priggly]
by snakeweasel
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Oct 10, 2008 (3:58 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Oct 09, 2008 8:26 pm)
The Aveo IS safer than the Smart according to the authority informedforlife.org.
The big question is just who is informedforlife.org and what is the basis for their decision?
The site uses IIHS (which puts the Smart safer than the Aveo) and NHTSA (which puts the Aveo safer in some aspects and the Smart safer in others) and uses what I would consider a questionable methodology to come to some conclusions. In short I wouldn't take what they say to seriously.
Why anyone would prefer it to a, say, Chevy Aveo or Honda Fit or Nissan Versa or similar real car, is simply beyond me.
Well first off the Smart is a real car, secondly as a second commuter type car it is better than the Aveo, Fit, Versa or any other car simply due to its low cost and much better gas mileage (Smart 33 city vs 33 highway for the other cars). Plus its rather fun to drive, have you driven one?
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [priggly]
by gregg_vw
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Oct 10, 2008 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Oct 09, 2008 8:26 pm)
I have seen quite clearly that it is beyond you. You are blind to why people buy the car, and why the Aveo would likely not be cross-shopped with a smart. For many reasons, I prefer the smart to a motorcycle or scooter as transport. Its appeal (or novelty factor as you put it) is only part of the equation. It is small which is very appealing (park anywhere, no need to be carrying a back seat that is never used), gets good mileage, and has equipment usually only seen on expensive cars and not available at all on the Aveo. The Aveo blends in, the smart stands out. It is another choice, one which some people gravitate toward. It is polarizing. A smart buyer would likely not be intereste in an Aveo. To try to argue a smart buyer out of the purchase seems silly, when the whole basis of anti-smart thinking doesn't hold much weight to the smart buyer. If everyone weighed the same factors in a car purchase, we would have very few options within the various vehicle classes.
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Re: Where can I buy a Smart Car? [snakeweasel]
by dennismau
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Oct 10, 2008 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 10, 2008 3:58 am)
Before I bought my Smart Car I drove all those cars you mentioned but the Smart car fulfilled my needs better than any of them. It gets better mileage(I'm getting 43-45mpg driving back and forth to work), it's more comfortable with more room, it's more fun to drive, and because of it's really small size it has many advantages in parking and maneuverability that are hard to describe. I ride a motorcycle and the Smart Car approaches the motorcycle in this respect. After having a small car like this I will never get a big car again for a commuter car or around town car.
Dennis
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