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Anyone Paying List Price? by fabfabe
Sep 02, 2008 (9:42 am)
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My Smart Car is scheduled to arrive in November. As I've equipped it, the list price is just over $16k, including destination fee but not tax. Knowing this car is in high demand, I expect I'll have to pay the sticker price. Perhaps. Is anyone out there haggling with their dealers for a better price?
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [fabfabe] by dmathews3
Sep 02, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: fabfabe (Sep 02, 2008 9:42 am)

If they aren't haggling then they should after the article I read this past weekend. It sure did rack it over the coals. I sure wouldn't buy one after that article.
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [dmathews3] by priggly
Sep 02, 2008 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Sep 02, 2008 10:25 am)

A current review of informedforlife.org's SCORE (Statistical Combination Of Risk Elements) gives the 2009 Smart Fortwo 2-Dr. a score of 162. This is the poorest score of ANY vehicle tested and comes in DEAD LAST! Which is what you'll be if you get in a serious accident inside this death trap.
 
It ranks in the "worst 10% for 2003-2009."
 
http://www.informedforlife.org/demos/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/1MasterSCOREr.pdf
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Re: Why SmartCar over Toyota Corolla? [dean407] by swtnlovabl
Sep 02, 2008 (7:18 pm)
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Replying to: dean407 (Jun 08, 2008 6:07 pm)

I Have A EUROPEAN 2005 Smart Fortwo made by Mercedes, and I get about 54mpg, Mine does NOT have a Mitsubishi engine !!
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [priggly] by swtnlovabl
Sep 02, 2008 (9:49 pm)
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Replying to: priggly (Sep 02, 2008 12:51 pm)

A Safe Smart Car
 
The smart car designers must have known that the size of the smart would raise questions of safety. In the event of an accident, how are occupants better protected beyond door beams, seat belts and airbags?
 
Design a safety shell, like a walnut, and make it very strong. This high-strength "Tridion" frame has the ability to absorb tremendous impact, and although no automaker can guarantee against injury, to date this is the single-most important element of the smart.
 
three-star (out of four) European safety rating for Mercedes-Engine fortwo
 
Completed in April 2008, U.S. safety ratings on the 2008 smart models provided an overall four-star rating out of five. European ratings range from one star to four stars. U.S. ratings range from one star to five stars.
 
The smart has ranked competitively with similar-size and much larger cars. The following video is a graphic example of how this car performs in a designed crash at 70 MPH into a concrete barrier. You may be amazed by the result.
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [priggly] by gregg_vw
Sep 03, 2008 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Sep 02, 2008 12:51 pm)

Just can't help yourself, can you?
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [gregg_vw] by priggly
Sep 03, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Sep 03, 2008 4:20 am)

You are clearly in denial.
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [priggly] by gregg_vw
Sep 03, 2008 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Sep 03, 2008 9:20 am)

And you are clearly stuck in repeat mode, strangely so in a thread about a car in which you have no interest in buying or driving.
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [gregg_vw] by priggly
Sep 03, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Sep 03, 2008 9:25 am)

People have a right to know the truth about the "Smart." Wouldn't you love to suppress every negative article about it, such as the one reported by dmathews3 in post #315?
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Re: Anyone Paying List Price? [priggly] by dmathews3
Sep 03, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Sep 03, 2008 9:42 am)

Why me, because I spoke the truth. I dug out the aricle in my Lansing State Journal Business Weekly section on Labor Day. This article was written by Mark Phelan of the Detroit Free Press. Headline is "Smart Fortwo fashionable but flawed. He compares it to the Aveo, Fit, Versa, Scion XB or the Mini Cooper. He states they are all superior to vastly superior. They have more room, power better rides and higher quality. Interior cheap materials like nubby fabric on doors, poor fitted carpet & floor mats plus cupholders to small to hold a large capuccino securely. Latch on rear window broke and couldn't be closed. Poor shift quality, engine vibration annoying and on an on. I suggest you find the article and read it yourself as it sure didn't do them any good. Reminds me of the Yugo roadtests of old. And we all know how long those things lasted.
Here is the article http://tinyurl.com/6dcjyb

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