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Re: regular v premium [unclefudd] by gregg_vw
May 30, 2008 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: unclefudd (May 29, 2008 3:43 pm)

And to do that, you will use premium. It is only a few cents more per gallon, and if it gives you two or more miles per gallon more, you are money ahead using premium rather than regular. Regardless, use of regular will not harm your car at all.
 
Here in the midwest, a lot of gas has 10% ethanol. Bad for mileage. But premium often doesn't add ethanol. Mid-grade is usually always an ethanol mix. Sometimes as a result, you see mid-grade at the same price as regular (or at one station near me where regular has no ethanol added, a lower price). False economy. Avoid the ethanol stuff for the highest mileage.
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Re: Commuting 60 miles per day [scwmcan] by murphy4
May 31, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: scwmcan (May 27, 2008 3:44 am)

thank you. I will try the closest dealer adn see if I can get a "real" test drive. My commute isn't going to get shorter and I don't think gas is going to drop back donw to reality.
 
We need more euro people movers in US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oil drain by mmm1
Jun 04, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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I am awaiting my Smart Passion which the dealer tells me I will get in about 1 1/2 to 2 months (I'm on orphan list). Today I asked a salesman if the oil drain plug is on the right side of the crankcase and he said "I don't know, I've never seen it on the lift". No initiative whatsoever, no attempt to ask another salesperson about this. Incredible! Anyway, can someone please tell me exactly where the oil drain plug is and where the filler tube is. While at the dealership I briefly thumbed through the owners manual and believe I saw something about being able to order a maintenance manual. Has anyone done this, and if so, how much is it and is it comprehensive enough to spend money on. With only a two year warranty I suspect that I will want to do as much of my own maintenance as possible. Anybody paid for an oil change at the dealership? I'd be curious as to how much they ripped you off. Thanks much.
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Golf Clubs by mmm1
Jun 04, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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Has anyone tried to put a golf bag with golf clubs in it in the back of a Smart Passion? How about a golf bag with just irons and no woods? Is there room for the woods anywhere else in the car without putting the passenger seat down? Hope to take delivery in the next two months and am hoping clubs will fit.
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Re: Oil drain [mmm1] by dennismau
Jun 04, 2008 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: mmm1 (Jun 04, 2008 12:13 pm)

It is a 15 minute job to change your oil in a Smart Car! Buy a filter from the dealer and 4 qt's of Mobil 1 Synthetic oil 0-40w(Auto Parts Store,Checkers,etc.).(The car holds 3 1/2 qt's). The filter and oil drain plug are underneath the engine on the right back side of the car. You do not need to lift the car in any way. The drain plug is BIG requiring a 24 mm socket(You can't miss it!). If you only have a 3/8" drive socket wrench you will have to buy a 3/8" to 1/2" adapter because this big 24 mm socket is only available in 1/2"drive. There is a copper drain plug washer that can be re used if you don't over torque when installing it or you can buy a new one at the dealer for a couple bucks.
     Now you have everything you need to change the oil! Put a little drain pan under the drain plug and drain the oil then using a filter wrench(I used one that tightens as you turn it) loosen the filter and install the new one putting a little oil on the o-ring seal and hand tighten securely. Remove the carpet and engine cover on your Smart Car on put in the required 3 1/2 quarts of Mobil 1 Synthetic 0-40 w oil and your done. Start the car and make sure you have no leaks. I have changed oil in different cars in my day but I must say this is one of the easiest cars to change oil in have ever seen! It is may be a 15 minute job.
 
Dennis
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Re: Oil drain [dennismau] by mmm1
Jun 05, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: dennismau (Jun 04, 2008 5:50 pm)

Thanks much Dennismau for the detailed explanation. Did you get this info about Mobil 1 out of the owner's manual or is Mobil 1 your personal preference? Since the oil only has to be changed every 10.000 miles I'm okay with the Mobil 1 but just curious about whether or not it is required. I quickly flipped through the owner's manual while at the dealership but don't recall seeing much on owner maintenance. I'm sure that Smart wants customers to come back to the dealership for oil changes and routine maintenance but there is no way I'm going to do this unless it is something that simply cannot be done by someone with above average mechanical skills. Not atl $100 per hour.
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Re: Oil drain [mmm1] by plekto
Jun 05, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: mmm1 (Jun 05, 2008 7:58 am)

The first couple of oil changes actually should be plain natural oil to help get the tiny pieces of grit and gunk out of the engine. Change at 50 miles and 500 miles, then normally after that with whatever you want to use.
 
(synthetic is too "slippery" and won't adequately clean the fine grit and gunk out)
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Re: Oil drain [plekto] by gregg_vw
Jun 06, 2008 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jun 05, 2008 3:32 pm)

One does not have to do those early oil changes anymore. In fact, VW insists that you do not. The first oil change should go the length recommended with no shortening. They believe this contributes to better engine break-in, seating and longevity. You have to remember the tolerances in a modern engine are extremely tight...the fine metal, grit and gunk of older engines has been eliminated.
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Re: Oil drain [gregg_vw] by dmathews3
Jun 06, 2008 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jun 06, 2008 4:36 am)

True and some manufacturers put in a special oil or additives just to help the break in process.
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Re: Oil drain [dmathews3] by plekto
Jun 06, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 06, 2008 4:47 am)

But we're talking about the FourTwo here. As far as I know, they're giving us a normal 3 cylinder engine and pushing us out on the road.(ie - the engine appears to be whatever they could stuff into it, technology-wise and not something made specifically by Mercedes) Given how easy the thing seems to be to change oil, changing it an extra time or two at the beginning seems to be a good idea.

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