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#243 of 491 Re: Commuting 60 miles per day [murphy4] by scwmcan May 27, 2008 (3:44 am)
Replying to: murphy4 (May 26, 2008 2:33 pm) I Think that is something you will have to try for yourself. My test drive showed that the smart was fine for me on highway driving, but for you it may not be, also it may depend on the highway itself, I would say that yes the car is fine on the highway, but you may or may not find it acceptable for you, and only a test drive on the highway will let you know one way or the other. Scott Replies to this message: murphy4 (May 31, 2008 8:46 am)
#244 of 491 regular v premium by unclefudd May 27, 2008 (10:01 am)
Thank you dstrom;   I appreciate confirmation of what I beleived to begin with.   I have been a mechanic all of my life, although a licensed aircraft mechanic, I have built several high compression car and motorcycle engines to run fast and powerful. Now with gas cost it is imperative I get something with mileage in mind. But I was a little disconcerted to hear the sales person say that I must use premium. I asked him and he said it is a 1 liter 77 HP engine driving 1800 pounds. So it is difficult to imagine premium being the only fuel that will power it successfully. I did not try to explain, but most people know that internal combustion engines will TELL you if they are running on poor or inadequate fuel. They knock or ping etc right away. However one would already have purchased to auto in order to test and decide whether it will run or not using regular.   I have no doubt it mat cause a little difference in performance but it should run just fine. Now as my wife points out, it is only a 7 gal tank and only .20 cents difference in the two fuels so why bother and or take the chance. merely to proove a point I suppose. I ordered mine today and have no doubt the wife will run premium.   But thank you to all who participated.   UncleFudd Replies to this message: plekto (May 27, 2008 10:34 am) gregg_vw (May 28, 2008 5:13 am) unclefudd (May 29, 2008 3:43 pm) gregg_vw (May 30, 2008 5:31 am)
#245 of 491 Re: regular v premium [unclefudd] by plekto May 27, 2008 (10:34 am)
Replying to: unclefudd (May 27, 2008 10:01 am) Still, 87 Octane does have a bit more power per gallon than 91. Given the reasonable compression ratio that it has, it should do just fine.
#246 of 491 purchase now? by irisheyes44 May 27, 2008 (2:32 pm)
Is it possible to go to a smart dealership and buy one off the lot or do you have to pre-order? Replies to this message: bumpy (May 27, 2008 5:32 pm)
#247 of 491 Re: purchase now? [irisheyes44] by bumpy May 27, 2008 (5:32 pm)
Replying to: irisheyes44 (May 27, 2008 2:32 pm) Both. If you have a particular configuration (model, colors, options) you want, then the reservation system is the best way to get that, but you will be waiting until sometime in early 2010 to get that exact car. You can also get on a dealer's waiting list, and if a reserved car arrives but isn't purchased for some reason they will go down the waiting list until they find a buyer. That's how I got mine a year before my reservation car will show up. That depends on an individual dealer's policy, though. Some may just put the car up to whoever walks in the door and wants it.
#248 of 491 Re: Smart Car [bumpy] by dennismau May 27, 2008 (10:20 pm)
Replying to: bumpy (Nov 23, 2007 9:48 am) I have had a new 2008 Smart for Two for two months now.I am getting 40 to 45 MPG going back and forth to work which is part highway and part city driving. On the highway I am getting 45 to 50 MPG. If you drive the car moderately in automatic mode you will get better mileage than the EPA numbers suggest. I believe they drove the car hard in the manual mode to get those low numbers. I honestly have not seen any mileage lower than 40 MPG so don't let the EPA gas mileage numbers scare you away from this car. It is one fantastic little car.
#249 of 491 Re: regular v premium [unclefudd] by gregg_vw May 28, 2008 (5:13 am)
Replying to: unclefudd (May 27, 2008 10:01 am) You can use regular gas in any car calling for premium, as long as it is not a supercharged engine (turbocharged usually ok). However, why bother? It is only a few cents more and a very small proportion of what gas costs now. And you will get slightly less mpg on regular, which will negate any savings. Oh, and the 2008 EPA ratings are too low, unless you are an inveterate speeder. Replies to this message: unclefudd (May 29, 2008 3:43 pm) gregg_vw (May 30, 2008 5:31 am)
#250 of 491 Re: regular v premium [gregg_vw] by unclefudd May 29, 2008 (3:43 pm)
Replying to: gregg_vw (May 28, 2008 5:13 am) Why indeed:   My thought and the expenses we have as a result of buying a new car to improve mileage is to save. Why do all of this to give back or lose mileage at expense of more expensive gas than is necessary. I want all that I can get or why bother. Nowhuttameen? If I have no choice or if it is going to cause problems with the car in the long run or if by using the regular I lose mileage, then by all means I must use premium. Time will tell and so far there are not enough of them in use here in the states to know for certain whether it will really be an issue.   if none of the bad things actually happen, I will as I said take full advantage of every cent that I can save.   UF Replies to this message: gregg_vw (May 30, 2008 5:31 am)
#251 of 491 Re: regular v premium [unclefudd] by gregg_vw May 30, 2008 (5:31 am)
Replying to: unclefudd (May 29, 2008 3:43 pm) And to do that, you will use premium. It is only a few cents more per gallon, and if it gives you two or more miles per gallon more, you are money ahead using premium rather than regular. Regardless, use of regular will not harm your car at all.   Here in the midwest, a lot of gas has 10% ethanol. Bad for mileage. But premium often doesn't add ethanol. Mid-grade is usually always an ethanol mix. Sometimes as a result, you see mid-grade at the same price as regular (or at one station near me where regular has no ethanol added, a lower price). False economy. Avoid the ethanol stuff for the highest mileage.
#252 of 491 Re: Commuting 60 miles per day [scwmcan] by murphy4 May 31, 2008 (8:46 am)
Replying to: scwmcan (May 27, 2008 3:44 am) thank you. I will try the closest dealer adn see if I can get a "real" test drive. My commute isn't going to get shorter and I don't think gas is going to drop back donw to reality.   We need more euro people movers in US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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