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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [blackgold85] by gregg_vw
Apr 13, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: blackgold85 (Apr 12, 2008 10:36 pm)

That's another option. But the Insight is not available new, and though it gets great mileage, it is a longer car than the smart, but offers no more interior room. A new Insight is needed. Meanwhile, the smart is here.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [ironmike59] by gregg_vw
Apr 13, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: ironmike59 (Apr 07, 2008 1:43 pm)

The ZAP Smart Fortwo was even smaller, slower, less comfortable and quite a bit more expensive than the current FourTwo. I don't know how they sell a used 2006 smart when the 2008 costs considerably less than the money that has to be asked for a 2006.
 
People complain about the 2008 smart prices, but they are literally many thousands less than the previous model. Mercedes has not made one dime on the smart, regardless of all the previous models they sold at the equivalent of low to mid twenty thousands. These new low prices will be a real test.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [snakeweasel] by blackgold85
Apr 13, 2008 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 13, 2008 6:00 am)

My 2202 Insight has 62000 miles and cost $9000----Half the price of the new convertible smart I ordered. Has a new battery pack with 8 year/80,000 mile warranty--and a SMOOTH automatic transmission
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [gregg_vw] by blackgold85
Apr 13, 2008 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Apr 13, 2008 5:20 pm)

The Smart is NOT here--it is over a year away to anyone who wants one. I ordered one in Jan08 and have an anticipiated delivery of june 09! By then, there will probably be other choices in a mini economy car
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [blackgold85] by snakeweasel
Apr 14, 2008 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: blackgold85 (Apr 13, 2008 8:42 pm)

Well one thing is that 02 Insights go for a bit more than that,
 
But you still have a 6 year old car with a ton of miles on it. Not the best way to go.
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smart Wait by dstrom
Apr 18, 2008 (5:16 am)
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smart USA claims that they are building and delivering ForTwos in the order that customers made their $99 deposits. I made my deposit on May 9, 2007, configured it (added accessories) on March 14, 2008, and my current "Delivery Date Estimator" shows "3/21/2008 to 6/19/2008". How does that compare to others, both those who've received their cars and those still waiting? Thanks.
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Re: smart Wait [dstrom] by gregg_vw
Apr 18, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: dstrom (Apr 18, 2008 5:16 am)

I don't recall when I put down my $99 deposit, but it was somewhat before you did. I think the real difference is that I configured mine on the web site last fall. When they started selling them in January, I got a call that mine was in. I ended up turning it down and getting my deposit back (my needs had changed in the interim).
 
A significant percentage of all ordered cars are not being purchased by the person who put down the deposit. Someone else purchased the one I ordered, but I do not know if there is a waiting list for these, or if you can just go in and make an offer on a turned down unit.
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Re: smart Wait [dstrom] by subienewbie2
Apr 18, 2008 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: dstrom (Apr 18, 2008 5:16 am)

Those dates are about the same as mine. I have canceled mine.
 
After 3 test drives my brain overcame the cool factor and realized that the tranny totally sucks and the lack luster mpg - my Beetle TDI does better, it
handles better and has more space while still being small and cool.
 
Also I would not think twice about taking the VW on a cross country trip.
 
There were many things I liked - but as it would be my only car, it just was enough and as I said the transmission was downright spooky. When a car has very few ponies - it needs a responsive tranny. Not only does it not have one, they reduced from 6 to 5 the number of gears from the previous model. Smart needs more gears not less.
 
I'll try again when they have a TDI diesel or hybrid.
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Re: smart Wait [subienewbie2] by gregg_vw
Apr 18, 2008 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: subienewbie2 (Apr 18, 2008 6:14 am)

The transmission did not bother me at all. It is what it is. You get used to it and forget it.
 
Your concerns and caution are more important if the smart is to be your only ride. In that case, it may be too small, depending on how you use your transportation and what other options you have where you live.
 
The VW is huge by comparison, but still one of the smaller cars out there. It is a well-equipped vehicle and gets good mileage. Since 1998, it has lost a lot of its "coolness" factor (the second glance stuff is about gone), and is now seen as a "chick car." But who cares? Eventually, the smart may be old hat too. Though maybe not. The Mini has not lost its cache, and it has been selling here since 2002.
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Re: Road Tour is starting! [gostrider] by bumpy
Apr 21, 2008 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: gostrider (Mar 27, 2008 8:58 am)

What about parts like Oil & Air Filter is it possible to service at one house?
 
The oil filter and drain plug are easy as pie to reach, though you may want to jack up the right side of the car and remove the right rear wheel to get a pan under the drain. The air filter is accessible through the floor behind the seats, but it is a bit of a tight fit in there.

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