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Re: My smart test drive [scwmcan]
by plekto
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Apr 11, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Apr 10, 2008 9:20 am)
It needs a manual gearbox and a diesel engine. Badly.
People can and will gladly deal with diesel engine if it gets 50-60mpg.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [ironmike59]
by blackgold85
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Apr 12, 2008 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: ironmike59 (Apr 07, 2008 1:43 pm)
I am superprized that no one mentions the Honda Insight . I got tired of waiting for my Smart and-- then told it would be 6 MORE months--so I bought a 2002 Honda insight auto. and it has averaged 54mpg over the last 3500 miles of mixed driving both interstate and city. I drove a Smart and it seemed more comfortable, but I didn't want to wait to get some economy in my driving. I can highly recommend the Insight if you want top economy.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [blackgold85]
by snakeweasel
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Apr 13, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: blackgold85 (Apr 12, 2008 10:36 pm)
I can highly recommend the Insight if you want top economy.
Except that you most likely paid more for a 6 year old car with a ton on miles on it.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [blackgold85]
by gregg_vw
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Apr 13, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: blackgold85 (Apr 12, 2008 10:36 pm)
That's another option. But the Insight is not available new, and though it gets great mileage, it is a longer car than the smart, but offers no more interior room. A new Insight is needed. Meanwhile, the smart is here.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [ironmike59]
by gregg_vw
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Apr 13, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: ironmike59 (Apr 07, 2008 1:43 pm)
The ZAP Smart Fortwo was even smaller, slower, less comfortable and quite a bit more expensive than the current FourTwo. I don't know how they sell a used 2006 smart when the 2008 costs considerably less than the money that has to be asked for a 2006.
People complain about the 2008 smart prices, but they are literally many thousands less than the previous model. Mercedes has not made one dime on the smart, regardless of all the previous models they sold at the equivalent of low to mid twenty thousands. These new low prices will be a real test.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [snakeweasel]
by blackgold85
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Apr 13, 2008 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 13, 2008 6:00 am)
My 2202 Insight has 62000 miles and cost $9000----Half the price of the new convertible smart I ordered. Has a new battery pack with 8 year/80,000 mile warranty--and a SMOOTH automatic transmission
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [gregg_vw]
by blackgold85
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Apr 13, 2008 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Apr 13, 2008 5:20 pm)
The Smart is NOT here--it is over a year away to anyone who wants one. I ordered one in Jan08 and have an anticipiated delivery of june 09! By then, there will probably be other choices in a mini economy car
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [blackgold85]
by snakeweasel
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Apr 14, 2008 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: blackgold85 (Apr 13, 2008 8:42 pm)
Well one thing is that 02 Insights go for a bit more than that,
But you still have a 6 year old car with a ton of miles on it. Not the best way to go.
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smart Wait
by dstrom
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Apr 18, 2008 (5:16 am)
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smart USA claims that they are building and delivering ForTwos in the order that customers made their $99 deposits. I made my deposit on May 9, 2007, configured it (added accessories) on March 14, 2008, and my current "Delivery Date Estimator" shows "3/21/2008 to 6/19/2008". How does that compare to others, both those who've received their cars and those still waiting? Thanks.
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Re: smart Wait [dstrom]
by gregg_vw
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Apr 18, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: dstrom (Apr 18, 2008 5:16 am)
I don't recall when I put down my $99 deposit, but it was somewhat before you did. I think the real difference is that I configured mine on the web site last fall. When they started selling them in January, I got a call that mine was in. I ended up turning it down and getting my deposit back (my needs had changed in the interim).
A significant percentage of all ordered cars are not being purchased by the person who put down the deposit. Someone else purchased the one I ordered, but I do not know if there is a waiting list for these, or if you can just go in and make an offer on a turned down unit.
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