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Re: My smart test drive [scwmcan] by subienewbie2
Apr 10, 2008 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Apr 10, 2008 7:12 am)

Buyers of the 2008 gas models must keep in mind your test drive was a diesel which has more torque at lower rpms than the gas model. I doubt you would have found it as responsive if was the new 2008.
 
Also, I may be wrong but didn't the one you tested have a 6 speed tranny rather the the 5 speed in the 08.
 
With the extra gear you get a better response when taking off.
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Re: My smart test drive [subienewbie2] by scwmcan
Apr 10, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: subienewbie2 (Apr 10, 2008 8:08 am)

Yes it was in the diesel, However owners of both the diesel and the 2008 gas model report that the gas model is much quicker than the diesel off the line, and the transmission is reportedly better.
Yes it had the 6 speed, it was as I said very good, I haven't compared gear ratios so I don't know if you do get a better takeoff or not, but as I said reports are that the gasser takes off much better. For me the diesel is the way to go for the milage since it is available, but apparently the 2008's have a better ride, more stable and are quieter, so theoretically those who drive the 2008 should be even happier than I was.
That said if you expect it to be a luxury car it will disappoint, it is what it is and if you can accept that you should be very happy, otherwise move onto something else.
Scott
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Re: My smart test drive [scwmcan] by gregg_vw
Apr 10, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Apr 10, 2008 8:15 am)

Yes, the 2008 is smoother riding, roomier, quicker and has a smoother shifting transmission than the old diesel model. If you are happy with the old one, the new version should satisfy you even more. And when the diesel version gets here, then the naysayers who seem to think mid-30s to mid-40s mpg is too low will perhaps shut up about the mileage.
 
Honestly, I don't understand all the bashing the smart gets. No one is making anyone buy it against their will. If you don't want one, you likely have valid reasons. But these same reasons may not apply to someone else's situation.
 
I decided against buying the one I ordered, but I don't feel the need to talk anyone out of a decision to purchase it. We need more choices like the smart, and we need more truly small cars in our midst, so that people are not so freaked out by the small size. (On the other hand, it would be ok if more people begin to be taken aback by how huge so many commuting vehicles are, often with only a driver aboard.)
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Re: My smart test drive [gregg_vw] by scwmcan
Apr 10, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Apr 10, 2008 8:58 am)

Yes as I said in my review, if worst comes to worst and I have to wait a little bit, hopefully the diesel of the new version will be out and then I would have to seriously consider one of those, the only thing that would hold me back from getting the 2008 is the lack of a diesel (and I didn't want to try on in case it was that much better ).
As for the size of the commuter cars, I am almost ashamed to be driving my Mazda 3 to work and back by myself, I can't imagine driving something even larger, mind you I understand that many people can only have one car and it need to do everything, I just think some of these people have them as much for show as anything else. At the very least they have to take responsibility for their decision and stop crying about gas prices, they are just going to have to wait it out till they buy their next car.
Scott
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Re: My smart test drive [scwmcan] by plekto
Apr 11, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Apr 10, 2008 9:20 am)

It needs a manual gearbox and a diesel engine. Badly.
 
People can and will gladly deal with diesel engine if it gets 50-60mpg.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [ironmike59] by blackgold85
Apr 12, 2008 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: ironmike59 (Apr 07, 2008 1:43 pm)

I am superprized that no one mentions the Honda Insight . I got tired of waiting for my Smart and-- then told it would be 6 MORE months--so I bought a 2002 Honda insight auto. and it has averaged 54mpg over the last 3500 miles of mixed driving both interstate and city. I drove a Smart and it seemed more comfortable, but I didn't want to wait to get some economy in my driving. I can highly recommend the Insight if you want top economy.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [blackgold85] by snakeweasel
Apr 13, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: blackgold85 (Apr 12, 2008 10:36 pm)

I can highly recommend the Insight if you want top economy.
 
Except that you most likely paid more for a 6 year old car with a ton on miles on it.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [blackgold85] by gregg_vw
Apr 13, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: blackgold85 (Apr 12, 2008 10:36 pm)

That's another option. But the Insight is not available new, and though it gets great mileage, it is a longer car than the smart, but offers no more interior room. A new Insight is needed. Meanwhile, the smart is here.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [ironmike59] by gregg_vw
Apr 13, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: ironmike59 (Apr 07, 2008 1:43 pm)

The ZAP Smart Fortwo was even smaller, slower, less comfortable and quite a bit more expensive than the current FourTwo. I don't know how they sell a used 2006 smart when the 2008 costs considerably less than the money that has to be asked for a 2006.
 
People complain about the 2008 smart prices, but they are literally many thousands less than the previous model. Mercedes has not made one dime on the smart, regardless of all the previous models they sold at the equivalent of low to mid twenty thousands. These new low prices will be a real test.
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Re: The ZAP Smart Fortwo [snakeweasel] by blackgold85
Apr 13, 2008 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 13, 2008 6:00 am)

My 2202 Insight has 62000 miles and cost $9000----Half the price of the new convertible smart I ordered. Has a new battery pack with 8 year/80,000 mile warranty--and a SMOOTH automatic transmission

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