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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 24, 2008 11:17 am) |
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Replying to: scwmcan (Mar 24, 2008 12:34 pm) I still think that smart should have sped up the introduction of other power plants for the US, so they would be available at launch, I am afraid that people will buy them because they think they are great on gas, and after they find out they aren't as efficient as they look like they should be will give up on the cars altogether, I think the car will be a hit just like the Plymouth Prowler was.  Once everyone has a cut and cheap convertible that wants one sales will plummet. Now if you really want to see something cool, that gets 100mpg and makes more sense than a Smart this is it! http://www.flytheroad.com/ They have some cool videos on there and to be honest if this thing is available this summer i will most likely buy one. The Smart is like $16K and gets mediocre economy the Venture gets 100mpg and is just as practical and looks way more fun! Plus 0-60mph is 7 seconds. hard to beat that. I hope the smart succeeds, but I think it will need some changes/updates to the tranny and maybe the diesel option.
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 24, 2008 9:44 pm) As for the smart I agree with the current gas engine that it could be like the prowler, that is why I said they should have had a different power package available at launch, they apparently have prototypes of hybrid, and all electric version as well as the diesel, at least one of these should hav been offered at launch in addition to the gas engine, I think it would have made a better long term bussiness case that way. Scott
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 24, 2008 9:44 pm) The Venture will also be more expensive and therefore competing with other hybrids that may not get as good mileage, but do offer other amenities it doesn't (like room). The other big factor for some people will be that the Venture is something like three feet longer than the smart (negating some of the park anywhere factor), but offers no more passenger carrying capacity. Plus that passenger has to ride in the back. But it is another choice and choice is good. |
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| ...Smart on the road in the Boston area. It was covered with vinyl graphics for a local HVAC supplier. Big guy was driving it and was easily keeping up with 70 mph traffic. | |
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Replying to: scwmcan (Mar 25, 2008 3:41 am) The website clearly states it will be legally a motorcycle, but I do see it as a more viable option to things like the Smart, just as the Smart is a viable option (to some) to the Yaris. But no getting soaked on that Venture so that's good and out of the elements with the benefits of a car and a motorcycle are pretty cool. I do agree it has to be put into production but they did get the Can-Am spyder into production and that's a 3 wheeler. it's massively sold out everywhere tho. If they get that hybrid on the market they will sell a ton of them if they actually do get 100+mpg. Smart is selling cars here like hotcakes right off the griddle. How long that will last is hard to say. The diesel is a factor but less now since diesel fuel is currently more than $1 per gallon higher than regular gas. I want to like the Smart, i will know after driving one.
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 25, 2008 7:24 am) As for the diesel smart yes the price of diesel currently blunts some of its appeal, but it still get almost twice the milage of the gas version (though admittedly the performance level is not the same, but seems to be acceptable). so it still pays off for now. Also up here the difference isn't as great as it seems to be in some states, and I expect it to drop to on at least par with regular in a month or so once the heating season ends (it usually does). Hoope you get to test drive a smart soon so you can share your experience (positive or negative). Scott
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Replying to: scwmcan (Mar 25, 2008 7:35 am) I'd be willing to wager a sizeable sum that if the Venture actually makes it to production that it will be reviewed by every publication out there, considering it gets 100mpg AND is a hybrid. Google it and a lot comes up considering it's not available yet and I expect that when it is any flaws will be shown up by journalists driving the snot out of it as they are wont to do.  Safety is an issue but I think it should be at least as safe as a modern motorcycle. I will test drive the smart probably next week. the problem is the nearest dealer is now sold out.  So we shall see. I would really like a diesel in something like the Smart. OR one that has a Hayabusa engine in it like on YouTube  My gosh that has to be the fastest smart on the planet!
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 25, 2008 8:09 am) Kind of an oxymoron don't you think>> 
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Replying to: robr2 (Mar 25, 2008 8:41 am) Kind of an oxymoron don't you think>>  You've got me there! 
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