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Replying to: dmathews3 (Feb 29, 2008 3:17 pm) My point was that a VW TDI Beetle gets better mpg than the US smart, accelerates better and is an all around car. Four passenger, much better for highway driving and does well in the city, it's a better choice for a person or family with just one car. As a pure short haul commuter and as a second car Smart is just fine.
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Replying to: subienewbie2 (Feb 29, 2008 11:10 am) Secondly with VW's current reliability records I will stay away from them like the plague. |
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Feb 29, 2008 3:17 pm) Furthermore, additives on these newer vehicles are NOT necessary. My 2003 Golf starts when it is 20 below, and I never put any anti-gell additives in. Bottom line, diesels are a compromise, like anything else. But no matter how you cut it, they get better mileage and cost less to fuel. Oh, and the new clean diesels coming from VW in 2008/2009, are more powerful, quieter, and get much better mileage than before. The cleanest, most smog-free cars in Europe are now diesels. It is no wonder that they have captured so much of the market there. Develop anything in great numbers, and it tends to get better.
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 01, 2008 5:26 am) In my case, I switched from a Subaru B9 SUV (which recommended Premium) that was getting 13 to 14 mpg in the city to my Bug that is getting even in the worst times better than 100% better milage. I now fill it up about once a month. If we had laws requiring gas stations to have a least one diesel pump, we would see lower diesel prices due to competition and more diesels because of easy access to fuel. |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 29, 2008 3:52 pm) Doesn't anyone have one yet that can give legitimate feedback? I just got the call that my reserved car will be in this month. Ironically the same day I got the call was the first time I saw one on the road here that wasn't a ZAP version! |
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Replying to: stanwict (Mar 05, 2008 5:57 pm) I suggest you abandon your Smart plans. Wait a year for more in-depth ownership reviews. Is the vehicle practical to live with? Is it worth the real-world economy that is only 15-20 percent better than a Yaris or base Scion? Better yet, wait for some real-world crash results.
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Replying to: stanwict (Mar 05, 2008 5:57 pm) Scott |
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Replying to: stanwict (Mar 05, 2008 5:57 pm) As for the Smart I did take one on a pretty decent test drive, It handled well was pretty peppy (more so than I thought). Transmission in automatic mode wasn't so great but all problems vanished in manual mode. It was a fun car to drive nimble and more responsive that I would have thought. But while it rode well over smooth roads it did let you know when you hit a pot hole.
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Is the price of the SMART negotiable or is their sales model like Saturn where everyone pays the same MSRP? It's obvious that because the brand is new here in the US and demand may be greater than supply initially that it might be difficult to negotiate the purchase price. I haven't heard anything about their retail sales model... After all, even a Prius can be had at invoice now and they had a rebate on them this past summer. Has anyone who keeps comparing the SMART to a Yaris actually seriously looked at one or purchased it over a SMART? I tried a Yaris and I would take my previous 1995 Tercel over it any day. For just slightly more than a G you’re into a Corolla that is more car than the Yaris and nearly the same fuel economy. Unfortunately both are nasty looking. I’m more apt to buy a used low mileage car like a Civic than a Yaris or Fit.
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