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BMW 3 Series, Coupe, Sedan, Wagon
#61 of 109 Re: Snow [error438]
Apr 13, 2007 (2:24 pm)
Yes, and it's HUGE.
My first BMW had All-Season rubber, and it served me fairly well for the four winters that I had it. Not GREAT mind you, but I was able to get from point A to point B, with only a certain amount of white knuckling the steering wheel. My second BMW came with Summer rubber, and with only a quarter of an inch of snow on my drive way I was unable to make it up to the street. That thing was downright scary to drive with even so much as a dusting on the streets. That said, I ordered a set of winter tires for it and was astounded at the difference those tires made in the car. It went from the worst winter driver I've ever had (and I've driven through thirty some winters) to the very best. If I had to rate the tires on a scale of one to ten for winter capabilities (ten being the best), I'd put the Summer rubber at a 1 (maybe not even that high), the All-Season rubber at a 4 and the Winter rubber at a 10.
#62 of 109 Re: Snow [error438]
Apr 17, 2007 (8:51 pm)
I disagree slightly with Shipo. It's not HUGE. It's ENORMOUSLY HUGE.
I have a FWD TL 6-speed with summer tires and it performs far worse in 2-3 inches of snow than a RWD 5-series would with all seasons. The summer tires get hard as nails in sub 30 degree temperatures and the traction sucks.
We were up in my hometown in Erie over Easter and got snow every day. Fortunately we drove our MDX. But I took out my 1995 Nissan Maxima from our second home and was shocked at how much better it handled in the snow than my TL would have. Absolutely no unintended excitement. All because it has 15" 215/60 all seasons (with 40,000 miles on them, no less) instead of 17" 245/45 summer tires. My knuckles would still be white if we had driven the TL.
#63 of 109 BMW 328 i 36 month lease
May 12, 2007 (8:35 am)
my lease on a 325i is coming to an end on may 26. Needless to say, the dealer I leased from has been calling me for the last 2 month, but although he says he will get me into another BMW, he doesn't seem to come up with numbers I can afford. I have done the math, looked at residuals posted here, took 5 % off MSRP, tried as low as .0014 money factor, and I don't see how I can get to a comfortable number either. So, question: is there any possible way, to get into a base 328i, for a 36 month lease, with 10k miles/Year, with putting down $2000, including tax, bank fee, first month (don't need security, since I am returning a BMW) and paying under/up to $400.00 a month. I am sure, something out of the normal upfront fees has to be rolled over into the monthly.
The only dealer that is willing to apparently work with me, is about 90 min away from where I live, and I have been begging him, not to make me come out there, if he can't get to what I can afford, but he won't obviously commit to any numbers until I am there. Again, he asked me to come in next Saturday, saying he will give me a deal that I "will be completly satisfied with", I just don't see how he could. What do you think? Is he just trying to get me out there and sell me a car I can't afford, or is there a way to getting to what I am able to pay?
Sorry for the long assey. This buying another car thing is about to drive me crazy...
#64 of 109 Re: BMW 328 i 36 month lease [hugo5]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
May 12, 2007 (9:46 am)
The lease plan is from BMW leasing and there isn't a whole lot the dealer can do to change the terms. He doesn't dictate money rate.
About all you can do to get your monthly down is throw more money at the lease up front, but that's a pretty bad idea.
Here's the current lease specials on the 328 sedan: Please note that with the up front monies your monthly really isn't $353 a month...it's more like $443...and if you go over 10,000 miles a year, then you add that to the lease monthly as well.
You can also possibly negotiate 12,000 mile and 15000 mile leases through BMW leasing.
$353 Monthly Payment
36 Month Term
$2500 Down Payment
$400 Security Deposit
10000 Annual Mileage
Restrictions Lease is based on a 2007 BMW 328i Sedan with optional Metallic Paint and Sport Package.
Comments $3253 due at signing. Dealer participation may vary. Incentives and Rebates are provided subject to the terms of our Visitor Agreement.
#65 of 109 Re: BMW 328 i 36 month lease [hugo5]
May 12, 2007 (9:48 am)
is there any possible way, to get into a base 328i, for a 36 month lease, with 10k miles/Year, with putting down $2000, including tax, bank fee, first month (don't need security, since I am returning a BMW) and paying under/up to $400.00 a month.
It is certainly possible. Check out this BMW 328i lease offer. Also, hop over to the BMW 3-Series: Prices Paid & Buying Experience forum to do some home work, and then make an offer to the dealer. You should not walk into the dealership until you work out the price.
#66 of 109 Re: BMW 328 i 36 month lease [jtla]
May 12, 2007 (10:00 am)
One more thing -- Be an informed shopper by using this lease calculator to figure out lease payment yourself.
#67 of 109 Re: BMW 328 i 36 month lease [hugo5]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
May 12, 2007 (10:32 am)
Can you do it? How base of a car would you be satisfied with?
Base '07 328i
$32000 Selling price
64% Residual (3yr/30K)
Monthly payment = $374/mo.+tax
Due at signing = 1st pymt, title/license fees, $625 acq.fee ($1300 total?), still have $700 of your $2K in the bank.
If your tax rate is 7% or less, your payment is under $400.
You want options? Add auto, premium pkg and metallic paint..
$36500 Selling price
$700 CAP cost reduction (using up your $2K)
$35800 CAP cost
Monthly payment = $400/mo.+tax (about $428/mo. w/7% tax)
Due at signing = 1st pymt, acq.fee, title/license, cap cost reduction ($2000 total?).
So.. it can be done..
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#68 of 109 Re: BMW 328 i 36 month lease [jtla]
May 12, 2007 (10:42 am)
I did all that, more than once. Maybe I am doing something wrong. It was giving me a monthly payment of $428.99/month. In this case, I would still have to pay 1st month down, bank fee, tax and dmv upfront, which would total somewhere around $2350, depending on the bank fee and dmv(just carrying plates over)
I actually got a better deal from the dealer, which was $399/month w/ $2346.83 total out of pocket (incl tax and fees). $399 was my absolute max of what I can swing. I am paying $371.83 at the moment for the 325i, and it's calculated into the monthly overhead, going up means stretching it. My wife wants to keep it the same or lower...
Basically, I need to bring this deal down by $600 or so, to be where I wanna be. Can you roll over the bank fee into the payment? Need the out of pocket to come down by at least $350
#69 of 109 info on lease
May 12, 2007 (10:47 am)
I posted this in another thread, but didn't get an answer:
I am also looking at other cars, and for those I wasn't able to get the residual value and money factor over the internet. The dealer told me over the phone, that there is no way he would give this information to me. He would rather give me the invoice price. After all, then I could just work out my own deal...duh.
Am I entitled to know these figures? Do I have to go in to get them, if at all, or can I request them over the phone, so I am prepared before I go in?