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Long-Term Test: 2007 Nissan Versa SL - Our 2007 Honda Fit couldn't get a fair shake as the lone subcompact in the Inside Line long-term test fleet, so we've just acquired a 2007 Nissan Versa. (more)


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Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jacksan1
Mar 25, 2007 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am)

Nissan is owned by Renault.
 
Renault owns a minority stake of Nissan (44.3%), and as such, yes, Renault is an owner, but not the owner. Of course, Carlos Gohsn Bichara having come from Renault and being also Renault's CEO, there are active crosstalks between the two companies. But one thing that is important to remember is that, sharing a platform does not make a Nissan a Renault and vice versa (an unintended pun), much the same way that the Mazda3 does not become a Volvo just because the V50 and S40 share the same platform with Mazda3 (and vice versa).
 
You try to talk to a Nissan employee in Japan, esp., any who is on the engineering side of the company, and say that the Tiida is a Renault, the guy will just politely smile and say nothing, while thinking in his head, "No, it is not. We engineered this car, not Renault."
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Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jd10013
May 03, 2007 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am)

Nissan is owned by Renault.
 
Nissan is not owned by renault. They are two entirely separate companies. as someone said, renault bought a stake in nissan, and nissan bought a stake in renalt (15%). It was not a merger, or buyout like diamler/chrlysler. They do not share facilities, products, or parts. (aside from the global b platform) Nissan and renault still build their own cars and even compete against each other in europe/asia/africa/south america ect. What renault did was: see a large global auot maker that was heading for bankruptcy. because of that, nissan stock was dirt cheap. renault bought 5 billion worth betting that they could send goshen down there and turn it arround.
 
It worked. their 5 billion dollar investment has made them about 20 billion so far. each year, nissan sends them a check equal to 44% of their profits.
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sad mpg by bobw3
May 08, 2007 (8:23 am)
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My Ford Freestyle with CVT gets 20mpg in the suburbs and 25mpg on the highway going 70-75mph. It's pretty sad if the Versa with CVT can't do much better.
 
My Fit sport auto, on the other hand, gets in the low 30's mpg in the suburbs and in the high 30's mpg on the highway.
 
With both cars, if I keep the highway speeds at 60-65mph, I can get 40mpg in the Fit and 27mpg in the Freestyle.
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Re: sad mpg [bobw3] by flightnurse
May 08, 2007 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 08, 2007 8:23 am)

Bob what does that have to do regarding the Versa ?
 
The Fit and Versa can not be compared together, as the FIT is smaller interior space, smaller engine, doesn't come with any things as far as options. The only thing that can be compared with the Fit and Versa is they are "B" cars for each company.
 
We bought each car for what they give us, you bought the FIT because of mileage, I bought the Versa for size and Techno stuff.. I'm very happy with my versa, for me the ride is MUCH better then the FIT, and I'm getting now 32 combined..
 
Tony
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Re: sad mpg [flightnurse] by bobw3
May 08, 2007 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: flightnurse (May 08, 2007 10:14 am)

if you are getting 32mpg great...and I'm happy you are satisfied with your techno stuff and smaller cargo space.
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Re: sad mpg [bobw3] by bobw3
May 09, 2007 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 08, 2007 5:29 pm)

Actually, the Versa seems like a good car. To me, though, the steering and handling are much better on the Fit based on several test drives of the Versa. The roominess of the cargo area behind the 2nd row is also larger in the Fit, and that was important to me because when I use the Fit for road trips with a carseat in the back, I need all the space I can get behind the 2nd row.
 
Also, when I was car-shopping, I couldn't get a Versa with anti-lock brakes & CVT. Since having the Fit, I've found that my real-world Fit MPG is better than what I've read by many Versa owners. And I trust the reliability of Honda over Nissan. The Fit also leaves more space in my garage for other things since it's so short...I like that too.
 
The Versa does have more space in the 2nd row, and more creature comforts up front. Each person has to weigh the positive and negative aspects of each car to make their decision.
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Re: sad mpg [bobw3] by flightnurse
May 09, 2007 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 09, 2007 7:49 am)

Bob, how can you compare the versa MPG to the FIT when the Fit has a 1.5l 109hp engine to the Versa 1.8l 122hp..
 
Like I said before and it seems you aren't getting it. The only comparison to the two that can be made it is they are both B cars, and that is it. Other then that they can not be compared.
 
Tony
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Re: sad mpg [flightnurse] by jacksan1
May 09, 2007 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: flightnurse (May 09, 2007 8:19 am)

how can you compare the versa MPG to the FIT when the Fit has a 1.5l 109hp engine to the Versa 1.8l 122hp.
 
Yes, you can compare the two precisely because they are in the same segment (in the U.S., that is). Bob's comparison is valid. The Versa uses the bigger engine in the U.S. because the car needs the larger displacement to have an effecive performance level due to its weight. Neither the Fit nor Yaris, for instance, needs the same displacement to do the job. The fact that the Versa needs a bigger engine than the other cars and thus sacrifices (a bit) the fuel economy to do what other small cars can do is definitely a comparison factor. In this segment, fuel economy is a big part of the equation, and what matters is how many MPGs you are getting, not the size of the engine.
 
Remember, Tony, that the Versa (Tiida) IS a 1.5 liter car elsewhere in the world. Nissan designed it to be a 1.5 L car, and it definitely is. It is just that in the U.S. it comes with a 1.8 liter engine, and it appears that one pays for that in terms of MPG (somewhat - not that much).
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Re: sad mpg [flightnurse] by bobw3
May 09, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: flightnurse (May 09, 2007 8:19 am)

Show me the advantages of that 13hp.
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Re: sad mpg [bobw3] by flightnurse
May 09, 2007 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 09, 2007 10:25 am)

easy, lets load both cars with 4 passenager, and cargo and lets go for a drive...
 
Tony

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