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Long-Term Test: 2007 Nissan Versa SL - Our 2007 Honda Fit couldn't get a fair shake as the lone subcompact in the Inside Line long-term test fleet, so we've just acquired a 2007 Nissan Versa. (more)


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Versa Long-Term Reliability by orbit9090
Mar 02, 2007 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: KarenS (Feb 26, 2007 9:43 am)

I am glad the new Nissan Versa will be put through Edmund's paces.
  
The Versa looks like a great deal on paper, but its French (Renault) heritage is a major concern - especially after witnessing Renaults fall apart when they were sold in North America in the mid-eighties\early-nineties.
 
Q: How well will trim pieces and body hardware hold up?
Q: Will the CVT transmission hold-up under hard driving?
Q: Have Nissan dealership's service improved?
 
Time will tell, and I will be checking-back. Thanks Edmunds!
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Versa MPG numbers by longo32
Mar 05, 2007 (5:25 pm)
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Due to consumer and Congressional pressure, and being the laughing stock of the Auto Industry, The EPA has finally lowered the posted MPG numbers for the Versa (and for everything else with 4 wheels and a tailpipe)
The "new" numbers are now 28 and 33.
 The 'in town' 28mpg is still way too high by mine and others readings. The new Consumers Report Versa tester, also gets 20 'in town'. The CVT gets it's best MPG 30's numbers on the road of course like everything else, but in real time, downtown traffic, the Versa can put up some hideous numbers that would make you run not walk from the showroom.
My Versa SL with the CVT powertrain (with some easy highway driving figured in the equation) is coming in under 22 mpg.
 
The things I originally liked about the car, I still do, but I must warn those who are buying the Versa beliving the posted MPG numbers on the window sticker, are in for years of gas pump disappointments.
If I could take mine back and get my $22,000 back, I would.
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Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jacksan1
Mar 07, 2007 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 02, 2007 6:18 am)

The Versa looks like a great deal on paper, but its French (Renault) heritage is a major concern - especially after witnessing Renaults fall apart when they were sold in North America in the mid-eighties\early-nineties.
 
The Versa is not a Renault, nor does it have any Renault "heritage." The only thing it has is that it uses the global "B" platform that was jointly developed with Renault. Everything else, the body, suspension, engine, transmission, interior, literally everything else was developed solely by Nissan. Renault did not participate in engineering the Versa at all, other than working with Nissan in setting up a joint platform that is currently used by eight Nissan models and three Renault models.
 
In Japan, where the Versa/Tiida comes from, NO ONE regards the Versa/Tiida as French anything. If you ever sat and/or drove in a Renault Clio III (over in Japan it's called the Lutecia) that shares the platform with the Versa, you would know right away that these are completely different cars.
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Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [jacksan1] by flightnurse
Mar 15, 2007 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 07, 2007 6:52 pm)

Regarding wether the plateform or car has a european inflance or not, it does not LOOK like a Japaness car, and sure doesnt ride like one. I have spent a good time in france as well England have driven many Renault and Peugeots. The Versa DRIVES much more like a European car then it does a Japaness car. That is a good thing. Also the cars in the JDM ride completely different they the same model here in the US.
 
Tony
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Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [jacksan1] by orbit9090
Mar 25, 2007 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 07, 2007 6:52 pm)

Nissan is owned by Renault. The Versa is branded a Nissan in America but uses the global "B" platform that was jointly developed with Renault. French carmakers have a history in America of having sold shoddy cars.
The Versa's French heritage is a therefore a major concern.
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and 2+2=4
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Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jacksan1
Mar 25, 2007 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am)

Nissan is owned by Renault.
 
Renault owns a minority stake of Nissan (44.3%), and as such, yes, Renault is an owner, but not the owner. Of course, Carlos Gohsn Bichara having come from Renault and being also Renault's CEO, there are active crosstalks between the two companies. But one thing that is important to remember is that, sharing a platform does not make a Nissan a Renault and vice versa (an unintended pun), much the same way that the Mazda3 does not become a Volvo just because the V50 and S40 share the same platform with Mazda3 (and vice versa).
 
You try to talk to a Nissan employee in Japan, esp., any who is on the engineering side of the company, and say that the Tiida is a Renault, the guy will just politely smile and say nothing, while thinking in his head, "No, it is not. We engineered this car, not Renault."
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Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jd10013
May 03, 2007 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am)

Nissan is owned by Renault.
 
Nissan is not owned by renault. They are two entirely separate companies. as someone said, renault bought a stake in nissan, and nissan bought a stake in renalt (15%). It was not a merger, or buyout like diamler/chrlysler. They do not share facilities, products, or parts. (aside from the global b platform) Nissan and renault still build their own cars and even compete against each other in europe/asia/africa/south america ect. What renault did was: see a large global auot maker that was heading for bankruptcy. because of that, nissan stock was dirt cheap. renault bought 5 billion worth betting that they could send goshen down there and turn it arround.
 
It worked. their 5 billion dollar investment has made them about 20 billion so far. each year, nissan sends them a check equal to 44% of their profits.
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sad mpg by bobw3
May 08, 2007 (8:23 am)
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My Ford Freestyle with CVT gets 20mpg in the suburbs and 25mpg on the highway going 70-75mph. It's pretty sad if the Versa with CVT can't do much better.
 
My Fit sport auto, on the other hand, gets in the low 30's mpg in the suburbs and in the high 30's mpg on the highway.
 
With both cars, if I keep the highway speeds at 60-65mph, I can get 40mpg in the Fit and 27mpg in the Freestyle.
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Re: sad mpg [bobw3] by flightnurse
May 08, 2007 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 08, 2007 8:23 am)

Bob what does that have to do regarding the Versa ?
 
The Fit and Versa can not be compared together, as the FIT is smaller interior space, smaller engine, doesn't come with any things as far as options. The only thing that can be compared with the Fit and Versa is they are "B" cars for each company.
 
We bought each car for what they give us, you bought the FIT because of mileage, I bought the Versa for size and Techno stuff.. I'm very happy with my versa, for me the ride is MUCH better then the FIT, and I'm getting now 32 combined..
 
Tony
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Re: sad mpg [flightnurse] by bobw3
May 08, 2007 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: flightnurse (May 08, 2007 10:14 am)

if you are getting 32mpg great...and I'm happy you are satisfied with your techno stuff and smaller cargo space.

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