Article Comments 2007 Nissan Versa SL Long-Term Test

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Long-Term Test: 2007 Nissan Versa SL - Our 2007 Honda Fit couldn't get a fair shake as the lone subcompact in the Inside Line long-term test fleet, so we've just acquired a 2007 Nissan Versa. (more)

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#1 of 28 Article Comments 2007 Nissan Versa SL Long-Term Test by KarenS HOST Feb 26, 2007 (9:43 am)
Follow along on our long-term test of the 2007 Versa SL. Post your thoughts here! Long-Term Test: 2007 Nissan Versa SL Replies to this message: backy (Feb 26, 2007 10:28 am) orbit9090 (Mar 02, 2007 6:18 am) jacksan1 (Mar 07, 2007 6:52 pm) flightnurse (Mar 15, 2007 7:05 am) orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am) and 2 more...
#2 of 28 Re: Article Comments 2007 Nissan Versa SL Long-Term Test [KarenS] by backy Feb 26, 2007 (10:28 am)
Replying to: KarenS (Feb 26, 2007 9:43 am) I am glad Edmunds.com tested a non-ABS Versa. It helps confirm the need for ABS in the Versa. It appears the Edmunds staff is getting pretty good fuel economy on the Versa--30 mpg average in SoCal isn't too shabby. FWIW, almost every new car these days comes standard with a tilt steering wheel, and most cars in the Versa's price range have a 60/40 rear seat. MP3 jacks are becoming pretty common also. If you want to highlight the Versa's more uncommon features, how about Bluetooth, Intelligent Key, and the mid-sized interior room? Those are very unusual for this price range. (Also, the Fit is not the only subcompact to come standard with ABS: the Accent SE does also.) One question for the Edmunds' staff (maybe too early): if you had $17k of your own money to spend on a car, would you buy this Versa or something else that could be had for under $17k (e.g. Fit Sport, Elantra SE with sunroof, or Rabbit)?
#3 of 28 Class leading? by vapidoscar Feb 27, 2007 (11:40 am)
I am a bit confused about this class. Is the Suzuki SX4 in this class? I believe it has ABS standard and it has 143 hp and 136 ft/lb torque. Plus standard AWD. I don't know if that technically puts it out of this class but it is clearly a competitor in price and size. It sucks more gas and it is slower due to the AWD. But otherwise it is just attacking the market from an angle other than fuel effeciency.
#4 of 28 Versa Long-Term Reliability by orbit9090 Mar 02, 2007 (6:18 am)
Replying to: KarenS (Feb 26, 2007 9:43 am) I am glad the new Nissan Versa will be put through Edmund's paces. The Versa looks like a great deal on paper, but its French (Renault) heritage is a major concern - especially after witnessing Renaults fall apart when they were sold in North America in the mid-eighties\early-nineties. Q: How well will trim pieces and body hardware hold up? Q: Will the CVT transmission hold-up under hard driving? Q: Have Nissan dealership's service improved? Time will tell, and I will be checking-back. Thanks Edmunds! Replies to this message: jacksan1 (Mar 07, 2007 6:52 pm) flightnurse (Mar 15, 2007 7:05 am) orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am) jacksan1 (Mar 25, 2007 3:12 pm) jd10013 (May 03, 2007 3:00 pm)
#5 of 28 Versa MPG numbers by longo32 Mar 05, 2007 (5:25 pm)
Due to consumer and Congressional pressure, and being the laughing stock of the Auto Industry, The EPA has finally lowered the posted MPG numbers for the Versa (and for everything else with 4 wheels and a tailpipe) The "new" numbers are now 28 and 33. The 'in town' 28mpg is still way too high by mine and others readings. The new Consumers Report Versa tester, also gets 20 'in town'. The CVT gets it's best MPG 30's numbers on the road of course like everything else, but in real time, downtown traffic, the Versa can put up some hideous numbers that would make you run not walk from the showroom. My Versa SL with the CVT powertrain (with some easy highway driving figured in the equation) is coming in under 22 mpg. The things I originally liked about the car, I still do, but I must warn those who are buying the Versa beliving the posted MPG numbers on the window sticker, are in for years of gas pump disappointments. If I could take mine back and get my $22,000 back, I would.
#6 of 28 Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jacksan1 Mar 07, 2007 (6:52 pm)
Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 02, 2007 6:18 am) The Versa looks like a great deal on paper, but its French (Renault) heritage is a major concern - especially after witnessing Renaults fall apart when they were sold in North America in the mid-eighties\early-nineties. The Versa is not a Renault, nor does it have any Renault "heritage." The only thing it has is that it uses the global "B" platform that was jointly developed with Renault. Everything else, the body, suspension, engine, transmission, interior, literally everything else was developed solely by Nissan. Renault did not participate in engineering the Versa at all, other than working with Nissan in setting up a joint platform that is currently used by eight Nissan models and three Renault models. In Japan, where the Versa/Tiida comes from, NO ONE regards the Versa/Tiida as French anything. If you ever sat and/or drove in a Renault Clio III (over in Japan it's called the Lutecia) that shares the platform with the Versa, you would know right away that these are completely different cars. Replies to this message: flightnurse (Mar 15, 2007 7:05 am) orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am) jacksan1 (Mar 25, 2007 3:12 pm) jd10013 (May 03, 2007 3:00 pm)
#7 of 28 Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [jacksan1] by flightnurse Mar 15, 2007 (7:05 am)
Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 07, 2007 6:52 pm) Regarding wether the plateform or car has a european inflance or not, it does not LOOK like a Japaness car, and sure doesnt ride like one. I have spent a good time in france as well England have driven many Renault and Peugeots. The Versa DRIVES much more like a European car then it does a Japaness car. That is a good thing. Also the cars in the JDM ride completely different they the same model here in the US. Tony
#8 of 28 Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [jacksan1] by orbit9090 Mar 25, 2007 (5:44 am)
Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 07, 2007 6:52 pm) Nissan is owned by Renault. The Versa is branded a Nissan in America but uses the global "B" platform that was jointly developed with Renault. French carmakers have a history in America of having sold shoddy cars. The Versa's French heritage is a therefore a major concern. ... and 2+2=4 Replies to this message: jacksan1 (Mar 25, 2007 3:12 pm) jd10013 (May 03, 2007 3:00 pm)
#9 of 28 Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jacksan1 Mar 25, 2007 (3:12 pm)
Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am) Nissan is owned by Renault. Renault owns a minority stake of Nissan (44.3%), and as such, yes, Renault is an owner, but not the owner. Of course, Carlos Gohsn Bichara having come from Renault and being also Renault's CEO, there are active crosstalks between the two companies. But one thing that is important to remember is that, sharing a platform does not make a Nissan a Renault and vice versa (an unintended pun), much the same way that the Mazda3 does not become a Volvo just because the V50 and S40 share the same platform with Mazda3 (and vice versa). You try to talk to a Nissan employee in Japan, esp., any who is on the engineering side of the company, and say that the Tiida is a Renault, the guy will just politely smile and say nothing, while thinking in his head, "No, it is not. We engineered this car, not Renault."
#10 of 28 Re: Versa Long-Term Reliability [orbit9090] by jd10013 May 03, 2007 (3:00 pm)
Replying to: orbit9090 (Mar 25, 2007 5:44 am) Nissan is owned by Renault. Nissan is not owned by renault. They are two entirely separate companies. as someone said, renault bought a stake in nissan, and nissan bought a stake in renalt (15%). It was not a merger, or buyout like diamler/chrlysler. They do not share facilities, products, or parts. (aside from the global b platform) Nissan and renault still build their own cars and even compete against each other in europe/asia/africa/south america ect. What renault did was: see a large global auot maker that was heading for bankruptcy. because of that, nissan stock was dirt cheap. renault bought 5 billion worth betting that they could send goshen down there and turn it arround. It worked. their 5 billion dollar investment has made them about 20 billion so far. each year, nissan sends them a check equal to 44% of their profits.