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Saturn Outlook: Lease Questions by kyfdx HOST
Feb 22, 2007 (7:04 pm)
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Ask your Outlook lease questions here!
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Looking for lease details (supplier disc, MF, residual, etc.) by aroxas2000
Feb 26, 2007 (8:24 am)
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My family is looking into leasing an Outlook configured as follows:
  
XR FWD
Midnight Blue/Tan Leather
Advanced Audio pkg
Convenience pkg
DVD entertainment center
Enhanced convenience pkg
Navigation system with CD/DVD player
Premium Trim pkg
Sunroof
Touring pkg
HID Lamps
XM radio
  
My questions are as follows:
  
1. What is the best price that I can get for an Outlook with the options above? We live in Norther NJ.
 
2. I have a supplier discount. How much of a discount will this amount to?
 
3. To evaluate my leasing options, I want to play around with different scenarios with my downpayment amount. To do this, I need the following additional numbers:
 
a. supplier discount (as above)
b. residual value at end of 36 months
c. money factor or APR for the lease
d. cap cost (I assume just the cost of the car net of supplier discount)
e. typical bank fees, doc fees added on to the lease cost
 
4. How much do the numbers above change if I choose a 39 month lease instead?
 
5. Any Saturn offers that I can avail off? Conquest rebate? This would be my first GM car.
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Re: Looking for lease details (supplier disc, MF, residual, etc.) [aroxas20 by Car_man HOST
Mar 20, 2007 (4:14 am)
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Replying to: aroxas2000 (Feb 26, 2007 8:24 am)

Hi aroxas20. Chances are that the price that you are able to get on this truck through General Motors' supplier purchase program is better than the one that you would be able to negotiate on your own. The dealer will be able to tell you what this truck's supplier price is. You also should be able to find out what the price of this truck is by visiting the GM Supplier Discount Web Site.
 
As far as this truck's lease program goes, GMAC's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 Saturn Outlook XR FWD with 15,000 miles per year are 6.9% and 63%, respectively. The lease rate for an otherwise identical 39 month lease would be the same, but its residual value would be 1% lower. As you can see, GMAC publishes lease rates instead of money factors for the vehicles that it leases. You can convert its published lease rates into approximate money factor equivalents by dividing them by 2400.
 
If you lease this truck, at lease signing you will have to pay your first month's payment, a security deposit equivalent to that payment rounded up to the nearest $25 increment, GMAC's $595 acquisition fee, and any required state taxes or fees.
 
The only cash incentive that I am aware of on this truck right now is the $1,000 conquest cash that you mentioned. If you are the current owner or lessee of a non-GM vehicle you should be able to take advantage of this cash.
 
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Re: Looking for lease details (supplier disc, MF, residual, etc.) [aroxas20 [Car_man] by axmangto
Apr 03, 2007 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Mar 20, 2007 4:14 am)

My dealer insists the 36 month residual is 60%. Could the 63% be based on the base (sticker) MSRP and 60% if they try to use any "add-on" sticker items? Perhaps if I could reference your source for the 63% I may get further with them.
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Re: Looking for lease details (supplier disc, MF, residual, etc.) [axmangto] by tkw1
Apr 20, 2007 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: axmangto (Apr 03, 2007 9:05 am)

I am new to these discussion boards and I am finding them invaluable.. thank you!
 
I, too, am considering leasing an Outlook.
I just don't understand how to use the numbers you are giving above to figure out exactly how much I might pay for the lease.
 
The vehicle I've built online is about 35,000.00
 
I don't have the supplier discount, I am in my 4th Jeep GC and I'm willing to forgo all of the benies and $$ I'll save to get into the Saturn if the numbers work out.
 
I just don't trust the dealers, so I'd like to understand this better.
 
Also, at the risk of sounding completely uneducated in this, would there be a benefit to turning in my leased Jeep to Saturn (it's an early termination of the lease by 5 mos., about $1,600.00). But I'd have to pay close to $1000.in overage miles if I keep it any longer. Until I know what the Saturn lease #'s are I can't make the decision.
 
Thanks very much.
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Saturn Outlook: Lease Questions by neicey59
Apr 21, 2007 (1:57 pm)
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on most Edmunds lease boards for various SUV's and crossovers the host(s) advise to never put a deposit, and to not sign a lease that charges you to pay a disposal feel. They advise not to give the dealership any monies and to make them apply all incentives to your lease. Can you elaborate how you would lease a outlook without money upfront - I have excellent credit.
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Lease question by karkuhoit
Apr 22, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Saturn is offering the following deals on a 39 mo. lease for the Outlook:
1) 2007 XE FWD MSRP $27990, cap cost $26588, residual $17354, $1995 due at signing, no security deposit, TTL extra, payments of $349.00 per month
2) 2007 XR FWD MSRP $30290, cap cost $28921, residual $18780, $1995 due at signing, no security deposit, TTL extra, payments of $381.00 per month
 
Can you advise me as to these offers? We test drove the Outlook yesterday and are considering purchasing or leasing one in the next couple of months. The dealership does not negotiate sticker price. I am concerned about the $1995 due at signing because I've read that it's not a good idea to put money down on a lease.
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Re: Looking for lease details (supplier disc, MF, residual, etc.) [axmangto by Car_man HOST
Apr 24, 2007 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: axmangto (Apr 03, 2007 9:05 am)

Hey axmangto. I am pretty sure that this truck's 36 month residual value is higher than 60%.
 
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Re: Looking for lease details (supplier disc, MF, residual, etc.) [tkw1] by Car_man HOST
Apr 24, 2007 (3:41 am)
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Replying to: tkw1 (Apr 20, 2007 7:48 pm)

Welcome tkw1. I am glad that you have found this discussion so helpful. It sounds like you are new to the world of leasing. If so, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
You definitely will not benefit from turning in your Jeep before the scheduled end of your lease. Chrysler Financial is currently running a promotion that lets current lessees out of their deals up to five months early if they lease a new Grand Cherokee, but if you try to get out of your current deal early to lease a Saturn you are going to have to pay for your remaining payments out of your own pocket, either in cash at signing or by rolling it into your new lease.
 
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Re: Saturn Outlook: Lease Questions [neicey59] by Car_man HOST
Apr 24, 2007 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: neicey59 (Apr 21, 2007 1:57 pm)

Hi neicey59. Consumers can lease any vehicle that they want without making a capitalized cost reduction, aka down payment. I would be happy to estimate what a zero down lease payment would be like on the Saturn Outlook that you are interested in right now. In order for me to do so I need you to tell me exactly which Outlook you want, what its MSRP is, what its approximate selling price (this may just be the MSRP if the Saturn dealer that you work with will not negotiate) is, how long you want to lease it for, and how many miles per year you need to be able to drive it. You can look up this truck's pricing by visiting the following section of this site: Edmunds.com - New Vehicle Pricing. Once you have this info, let me know and I'll work up a sample lease payment for you.
 
As far as not signing a lease that charges a disposition fee goes, you may not have any choice. Many banks charge consumers who do not lease another new vehicle through then at the end of their current deal a disposition fee. Dealers do not have the authority to waive this charge.
 
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