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#118 of 554 Who will be the orphan?
Feb 10, 2008 (6:58 pm)
Reuters News Service is reporting that DX dealers have approved a reorganization plan that will eliminate many dealers. Also, and perhaps of more importance to consumers, Chrysler will eliminate as many as 30 models including one of their two minivan brands. Trust me, you do not want to be the owner of a discontinued model. My 2003 Olds Silhouette's value dropped drastically when GM discontinued the Olds brand.
Who will it be, Dodge Caravan or the Town and Country? Doesn't the Caravan outsell the T & C?
#119 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [artgpo]
Feb 10, 2008 (9:25 pm)
It's called Project Genesis. The plan is to have the entire lineup under one roof.
Chrysler hasn't said which models they are considering cutting but if one of the two minivans goes that doesn't mean it will not still be available under a different name. The Chrysler PT Cruiser used to be a Plymouth.
#120 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [tedebear]
Feb 11, 2008 (6:57 am)
The point is you will still own an orphan nameplate and the value of your car will depreciate, greatly. The T&C and Caravan have significant differences as noted here by other posters so it will affect the vehicle's resale value. These vans already have a notoriously low resale value.
This is not a new issue as many other brands both domestic and foreign have done it in the past.
It might be interesting to note the resale value of a used Pacifica since DX decided to kill that model.
#121 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [artgpo]
Feb 11, 2008 (11:49 am)
The Pacifica is being discontinued. This is totally different than changing the name of a minivan that the company has no plans to stop building.
Since both of these minivans are built under the same roof the company can configure what goes out the door however they want. There would no physical change to the product, other than a namplate. Did the resale of the PT Cruiser suddenly drop when it became a Chrysler?
Right now the Chrysler and Dodge minivans have 7 different configurations between the two. If they get rid of one name I suspect the company will consolidate some of those models into maybe 4-5 different choices.
2008 Chrysler Town & Country
Touring Signature Series Value Package MSRP*:$32,145
2008 Dodge Grand Caravan
SE VALUE MSRP*:$22,520
#122 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [tedebear]
Feb 11, 2008 (12:03 pm)
I agree. Considering the continued availability of parts, support, etc. and the already rapid rate of depreciation, I doubt the value of the discontinued branding will significantly drop in relation to the value of a comparable van in the continuing brand.
#123 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [xwesx]
Feb 11, 2008 (3:05 pm)
The orphan will probably be the Plymouth Voyager. This actually is old news. Most of what is being discontinued was announced months ago. The entire Plymouth line is supposed to go along with the PT Cruiser, Pacifica, Sebring, Crossfire. There will be big rebates on these probably during the summer. If they still have the "lifetime warrenty" - and you get a great price with a nice rebate, these will be a steal of a deal. Since there will be minivans made of the same type, except nameplate, there won't be an "availability of parts" issues.
#124 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [maryh3]
Feb 11, 2008 (3:31 pm)
The entire Plymouth line went a long time ago. They do not make a Plymouth anything anymore since about the 2001 model year.
Also, the only PT Cruiser leaving is the convertible version. The Sebring isn't leaving either.
#125 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [tedebear]
Feb 11, 2008 (3:46 pm)
I should agree with you except that I saw an 08 advertisement for the Plymouth Grand Voyager in the 08 body style at the Dodge dealer several months ago. You know more than me so can you explain what is going on here? I am positive of what I saw. It is almost as if the Grand Voyager is a model type of Grand Caravan. Like you I heard they were discontinued but saw the poster for it.
#126 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [tedebear]
Feb 11, 2008 (5:31 pm)
I respectfully disagree. Please look at automotive history of all the discontinued nameplates. Sure, the Caravan and T&C use the same components but all the public cares about is a viable nameplate. The GM vans were triplets with only a trim difference yet the Silhouette's low resale value dropped lower than its siblings when Olds was discontinued. Check it out.
#127 of 554 Re: Who will be the orphan? [artgpo]
Feb 12, 2008 (6:33 am)
It depends how much cheaper and how much more higher rebated the so-called orphan is. I'd take the cheaper price up-front and not have to worry what its value will be 5 years down the road. Bet I'd come out ahead. The same can be said of the 2007 vs 2008 Chrylser minivans. Those 2007's with the lifetime warrenty, $4500 rebates, sticker price discounts where you were probably paying $10000 less than its 2008 counterparts -- look like the better deal. However, the best deal and better resale are simply not the only things that matter.
When considering resale -- you must consider what you paid for it in the first place to determine who got the better deal.