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Article Comments 2008 Smart Fortwo First Drive

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Article comments for First Drive: 2008 Smart Fortwo - The 2008 Fortwo is larger than its predecessor, but it's still outrageously small, some 40 inches shorter than a Mini. In real life, it looks like an artist's impression of what a car might look like if we all drank skinny lattes. (more)
 
Full Test: 2008 Smart Fortwo Passion - Bottom Line: Hugely versatile as a city-only car, but perhaps not the best choice for those who go farther or need to carry more. (more)


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Re: Really? [plekto] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (11:28 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 28, 2007 11:09 pm)

Pizza joints hire drivers who own and use their own cars to deliver pizzas. The joints don't pay for the cars, gas, insurance or maintenance. The drivers usually quit within a few months because the little wages and tips don't amount to enough to maintain the cars and leave enough left over for the drivers to even buy pizza to eat, much less pay rent. And eventually drivers will get in an accident and be fired for that anyway. And those drivers usually don't notify their personal car insurance companies they are using their cars for business so coverages are sometimes not even available to pay or protect them.
Pizza delivery drivers are about the most taken advantage of worker group as there is in the U.S. Couriers are probably not much better. Probably the same arrangement for them at their jobs.
A Smart is not going to help them much, and will make no difference to the pizza joints or courier companies.
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... by plekto
Feb 28, 2007 (11:36 pm)
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Almost every shop here in Los Angeles that does deliveries has their own small car with a big sign on it. It may be different out where you live, but here's it's a prime Smart Car environment. It's way easier to have a company car for them as a writeoff.
 
Now, some places like the major chains(Domino's and such) as well as the crummier courier companies - yeah they pull crud like that. But even for couriers, it's all about MPG - and 40-50mpg is a huge deal for them.
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Dumb Smart [plekto] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (11:41 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 28, 2007 11:36 pm)

We'll find out within a few years if Smart is dumb. The Accent and Yaris and Fit will be way more successful than the dumb Smart.
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Re: Smart or dumb? [joe131] by snakeweasel
Mar 01, 2007 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: joe131 (Feb 28, 2007 9:29 pm)

I never said it was not functional.
 
You said it was "A tiny 2 seater Smart with little luggage space is just a toy to most US drivers." which is a comment on the functionality. I commented that most people with a second car for commuting only have one person in the car and carry very little stuff with them.
 
No where did I mention profit or if it was a flop or not. Just that if people gave it a chance and not listen to naysayers it might make it.
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yeah... by plekto
Mar 01, 2007 (4:26 pm)
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And a Goldwing is also a toy to most... oh, wait - they sell like crazy, don't they?
 
Think of it as a Goldwing with a shell around it and two more wheels. It'll sell very very well.
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Dumb Smart [snakeweasel] by joe131
Mar 01, 2007 (11:01 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Mar 01, 2007 5:01 am)

Yeah. So?
My posts already put those to rest.
Next?
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Re: yeah... [plekto] by joe131
Mar 01, 2007 (11:05 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Mar 01, 2007 4:26 pm)

Hahaha!
You are not going to see Goldwing owners switching over to Smarts. The Goldwing is one of the very finest interstate touring bikes in the world.
The Smart is just a bad little 2 seat car. Does not do anything really well. Not anywhere near Goldwing perfection. You funny! Haha.
Time will tell. Wait and see.
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Re: Dumb Smart [joe131] by snakeweasel
Mar 02, 2007 (5:15 am)
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Replying to: joe131 (Mar 01, 2007 11:01 pm)

Yeah so did mine. The Smart still stands as a car that will be more than sufficient for the average commuter
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Dumb Smart [snakeweasel] by joe131
Mar 02, 2007 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Mar 02, 2007 5:15 am)

While the Smart may be sufficient (or more) for the average commuter, so is almost every other car in the world. What a wonderful claim to make: sufficient for the average commuter. Hahaha! So what?
They are just not going to sell well because the average commuter is not going to want to buy one. That's why Smart is dumb.
Wait and see.
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Re: Dumb Smart [joe131] by snakeweasel
Mar 02, 2007 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: joe131 (Mar 02, 2007 6:54 am)

While the Smart may be sufficient (or more) for the average commuter, so is almost every other car in the world. What a wonderful claim to make: sufficient for the average commuter.
 
But it comes down to economy, sure you could buy more car but you will be paying more for capacity you don't need? Especially in a depreciating asset. The Smart will do what any other car will do for the majority of people on their daily commutes. And it will do it for less money. So what is the issue there?
 
Do you really think that people should pay more money for a back seat that they will never use? If you do please contact me as I have a wonderful deal for you. But please since checks can cause problems with deals like this cash only.
 
That's why Smart is dumb.
 
Have you seen a Smart? Have you driven a Smart? If not then you have no ideal what you are talking about. Everyone I have talked to that has driven one likes it.
 
The Smart is the perfect second commuter car.

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