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Article comments for First Drive: 2008 Smart Fortwo - The 2008 Fortwo is larger than its predecessor, but it's still outrageously small, some 40 inches shorter than a Mini. In real life, it looks like an artist's impression of what a car might look like if we all drank skinny lattes. (more)
 
Full Test: 2008 Smart Fortwo Passion - Bottom Line: Hugely versatile as a city-only car, but perhaps not the best choice for those who go farther or need to carry more. (more)


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Re: Smart or dumb? [snakeweasel] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 28, 2007 8:43 pm)

My comments were all on topic, that being the Smart. Sorry if it upsets you, but you don't get to choose about what I comment.
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Re: Smart or dumb? [joe131] by snakeweasel
Feb 28, 2007 (9:15 pm)
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Replying to: joe131 (Feb 28, 2007 8:49 pm)

No the topic of the post was the functionality of the car which you were questioning. Your refusal to address that and go off on tangents shows that your comments that it wasn't functional was just all hot air.
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Re: Smart or dumb? [snakeweasel] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (9:29 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 28, 2007 9:15 pm)

So funny!
I never asked a question about its functionality.
I never said it was not functional.
The Smart will generally be viewed as a toy in the U.S. and flop as a transportation device.
Flop means the Smart will not sell profitably enough for the make/model to stay on the U.S. market for very long. Flop also includes the idea that it could not be sold, on average, for the manufacturer's minimum target price and/or minimum desired unit sales volume.
And if you call that toy comment one of functionality, then it, as well as some of my other posts, already did address the issue anyway.
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Really? by plekto
Feb 28, 2007 (11:09 pm)
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I can think of a few segments that would LOVE to have it.
 
- Pizza delivery companies.
- Courier companies.(parking alone is a huge mess - this fits almost SIDEWAYS in a spot)
- Students and first-time buyers. ABS, Traction control, side airbags... It's like a 2 person Honda Fit or 2 person Mini. Way better than an Aveo or Yaris hatchback.
- People who want high mileage/eco freaks/etc.(Prius crowd who don't want to pay $20-25K for one)
 
The first two, though, will be the bulk of sales, like they were for the Geo Metro/Suzuki Swift. Plus, it's perfect to advertize on - people can't help but stare at it.
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Re: Really? [plekto] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (11:28 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 28, 2007 11:09 pm)

Pizza joints hire drivers who own and use their own cars to deliver pizzas. The joints don't pay for the cars, gas, insurance or maintenance. The drivers usually quit within a few months because the little wages and tips don't amount to enough to maintain the cars and leave enough left over for the drivers to even buy pizza to eat, much less pay rent. And eventually drivers will get in an accident and be fired for that anyway. And those drivers usually don't notify their personal car insurance companies they are using their cars for business so coverages are sometimes not even available to pay or protect them.
Pizza delivery drivers are about the most taken advantage of worker group as there is in the U.S. Couriers are probably not much better. Probably the same arrangement for them at their jobs.
A Smart is not going to help them much, and will make no difference to the pizza joints or courier companies.
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... by plekto
Feb 28, 2007 (11:36 pm)
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Almost every shop here in Los Angeles that does deliveries has their own small car with a big sign on it. It may be different out where you live, but here's it's a prime Smart Car environment. It's way easier to have a company car for them as a writeoff.
 
Now, some places like the major chains(Domino's and such) as well as the crummier courier companies - yeah they pull crud like that. But even for couriers, it's all about MPG - and 40-50mpg is a huge deal for them.
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Dumb Smart [plekto] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (11:41 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 28, 2007 11:36 pm)

We'll find out within a few years if Smart is dumb. The Accent and Yaris and Fit will be way more successful than the dumb Smart.
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Re: Smart or dumb? [joe131] by snakeweasel
Mar 01, 2007 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: joe131 (Feb 28, 2007 9:29 pm)

I never said it was not functional.
 
You said it was "A tiny 2 seater Smart with little luggage space is just a toy to most US drivers." which is a comment on the functionality. I commented that most people with a second car for commuting only have one person in the car and carry very little stuff with them.
 
No where did I mention profit or if it was a flop or not. Just that if people gave it a chance and not listen to naysayers it might make it.
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yeah... by plekto
Mar 01, 2007 (4:26 pm)
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And a Goldwing is also a toy to most... oh, wait - they sell like crazy, don't they?
 
Think of it as a Goldwing with a shell around it and two more wheels. It'll sell very very well.
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Dumb Smart [snakeweasel] by joe131
Mar 01, 2007 (11:01 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Mar 01, 2007 5:01 am)

Yeah. So?
My posts already put those to rest.
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