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Article comments for First Drive: 2008 Smart Fortwo - The 2008 Fortwo is larger than its predecessor, but it's still outrageously small, some 40 inches shorter than a Mini. In real life, it looks like an artist's impression of what a car might look like if we all drank skinny lattes. (more)
 
Full Test: 2008 Smart Fortwo Passion - Bottom Line: Hugely versatile as a city-only car, but perhaps not the best choice for those who go farther or need to carry more. (more)


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4two by cxvargas
Feb 25, 2007 (8:53 am)
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I'm stationed here in Europe and I see smarts everywhere I go and with so many large commercial vehicles crowding the roads I don't believe the smart is more or less safe than a Ford Fiesta or a Citroen C1. I would buy one but I find them a little bit over price.
Also, with the MB A-class over here in Europe maybe DCX should consider selling that model in the States as a Smart. I would prefer that if the price is right.
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Yeah... by plekto
Feb 25, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Truth to be told, I'd prefer almost any small Euro turbo-diesel over the Smart. The TD Civic, for instance, is astounding. It's nothing like the model we get in the U.S. - it's easily a generation ahead in every way.
 
Then there's Ford's own cars, Peugeot, and a slew of others that make better small cars than we get here(Mini and the Fit are probably the only two exceptions I can think of).
 
I also want the Volvo C30, the BMW 1, and the Mercedes A class to come over here.
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Re: Really? [plekto] by mike91326
Feb 26, 2007 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 24, 2007 10:48 am)

I agree, it would be a great car here in LA. I just wish it would come with a diesel. So where do you do 30mph in LA? If I went 30 on the 405 from West LA to the valley I would probably get a speeding ticket.
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Heh by plekto
Feb 26, 2007 (9:04 pm)
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I was being generous.
 
No, seriously, 25-30mph is about the actual speed if you aren't in a total gridlock situation. Lol.
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Re: Geo Metro averages 33/41 mpg, cty/hwy [joe131] by snakeweasel
Feb 27, 2007 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: joe131 (Feb 24, 2007 11:02 am)

A tiny 2 seater Smart with little luggage space is just a toy to most US drivers. It may have some novelty appeal, but as a car to own and drive every day, it's gonna flop
 
Not to sure about that. I look at my daily drive and cannot remember when I had more than two people in it and needed more than enough room for a few bags of vittles. For what I need a Smart will fit the bill perfectly. It makes the perfect second "commuter car". If people actually give it a chance and ignore naysayers like you it might have a chance.
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Re: mass [blue330xi] by snakeweasel
Feb 27, 2007 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: blue330xi (Feb 24, 2007 6:15 pm)

if you are struck by a 6000lb SUV you will find the C-class is a much better place to be.
 
I have seen the results of that. Trust me you don't want to be in the C-class under those situations.
 
As a comparison my brother was rear ended by a cement truck while in his Jeep Grand Cherokee. While the rear bumper was damaged, he came out allright and the car only needed about $1500 (of the truck drivers insurance money) to be repaired.
 
The cement truck wasn't going that fast then. I once saw a Cherokee rear ended by a dump truck. There was nothing left of the Jeep.
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Smart or dumb? [snakeweasel] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 27, 2007 6:57 pm)

Smarts have been sold since 1998 and still they've never turned a profit.
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Re: Smart or dumb? [joe131] by snakeweasel
Feb 28, 2007 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: joe131 (Feb 28, 2007 11:24 am)

Never can judge the future by the past. Also what do you consider a profit?
 
Not to mention that now they are entering one huge market.
 
But if they make a profit or not doesn't negate my comments that it makes a perfect second car.
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Re: Smart or dumb? [snakeweasel] by joe131
Feb 28, 2007 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 28, 2007 6:38 pm)

I was just relating a comment in a recent Car and Driver magazine. I don't know how profit was measured for the purposes of that issue nor do I know who figured it.
Recent past is often a very good indicator of near future in lots of things, maybe cars too. Guess we'll know more in a couple years.
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Re: Smart or dumb? [joe131] by snakeweasel
Feb 28, 2007 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: joe131 (Feb 28, 2007 7:29 pm)

Recent past is often a very good indicator of near future in lots of things, maybe cars too.
 
Maybe maybe not. In this case it depends on the business plan. The company my dad worked for used to plan for 5 years of losses before a store would turn its first dime of profit. They spent something like 20 years in one metropolitan area before that area made a profit. My question is are they supposed to be turning a profit at this point?
 
But you haven't addressed my question of how does this affect the point that the Smart car would make a perfect second commuter car.

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